megadrive Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 If anyone else is curious about what will happen to G bugles, look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4dm-OnmLXY That's G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dash Fieldpaint Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 I always wondered if 3 valve bugles would eventually end up being harder to find than the 2 valve or piston/rotor bugles. The 3 valve era, 1990 to 1999, was shorter than the 2 valve and piston/rotor eras, and there were fewer drum corps purchasing horns. Today, 9 years after the multikey rule, when looking on Ebay I tend to see more 2 valve horns than 3 valves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corps8294 Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 (edited) I thought the three valve Gs were the epitomy of excellence in terms of what's been and what is now. A kickin' hornline with some three valve Gs was unique and powerful. Sooooo, a question for the masses. Could awesome shows still be written and performed, currently, utilizing three valve G bugles? Edited June 18, 2009 by shortn'sour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hrothgar15 Posted June 18, 2009 Author Share Posted June 18, 2009 I thought the three valve Gs were the epitomy of excellence in terms of what's been and what is now. A kickin' hornline with some three valve Gs was unique and powerful. Sooooo, a question for the masses. Could awesome shows still be written and performed, currently, utilizing three valve G bugles? To even remotely suggest otherwise would be absurd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.morgus Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 I think they'll probably move to 3 valvers next upgrade (someone had mentioned that on here a while back) . . .but, yeah, as long as the service corps are out there, there will be some units in G.Maybe the Empire Statesmen (from DCA) will stay in G for a good little while too. I don't remember where I heard the quote, but the logic in buying a new line of 2 valve bugles had to do with the fact that they are still playing almost exclusively Col. Crawford's charts, all of which were written for 2 valve G-F-F# horns. Why buy heavier, more expensive instruments with tubing and moving parts that aren't needed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jocko the Wonder Llama Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Freelancers are using G bugles (3 valve) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniSopGuy Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 how much would one cost now? Kanstul G Bugle Price List; from Kanstul website Dynasty G Bugle Price List; from The Brass Shop website I can tell you that the Powerbore sop has gone up $110 since I bought mine in 2005. Most of the Kanstul bugles are less than the Bb counterparts. ($880 Sop vs $1190 Col103 Trumpet) However, I can find the Jupiter Quantum Series Trumpet for $885. Other than resale value, which is a big consideration for most corps, that kind of blows out the "G horns cost more" theory. Even the Dynasty G / Bb prices are about the same as each other. I think sooner or later, there will be a complete demise of G horns, but as long as corps in the DCA arena (I think only about 1/3 of them now) keep playing them and the military wants them, they will still be made. However, as the demand gets smaller, I could see the price going up for a special run of G horns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
84BDsop Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Kanstul G Bugle Price List; from Kanstul websiteDynasty G Bugle Price List; from The Brass Shop website I can tell you that the Powerbore sop has gone up $110 since I bought mine in 2005. $850 was the cost in 06 as well. I think it would be a mistake, however, to pin cost increases for completed instruments entirely on the relative scarcity of them. Materials costs have gone up across the board...my profits on steel items dropped a lot in the last year, just because my dealer's price went up, but I could not really pass much of the cost on to my clients without pricing myself out. I think sooner or later, there will be a complete demise of G horns, but as long as corps in the DCA arena (I think only about 1/3 of them now) keep playing them and the military wants them, they will still be made. However, as the demand gets smaller, I could see the price going up for a special run of G horns. Anyone have an idea of the the Marines paid? Those are even more of a special order item than a modern Powerbore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.morgus Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 (edited) Anyone have an idea of the the Marines paid? Those are even more of a special order item than a modern Powerbore. No idea on the price, but I'd be very suprized if manufacturers don't still have the molds and dies to produce two-valve clusters, so tooling up wouldn't be that big a deal. Isn't every Kanstul horn a special order? I seem to remember reading that in one of their adds a year or so ago. Edited June 18, 2009 by j.morgus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ussglassman Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Who still uses G horns? I know quite a few senior corps do, any juniors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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