Daave Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Aw, shucks y'all. It was just a proposal... (picturing a little boy with his hands in his pockets, swaying back and forth, his toe making circles in the sand.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papasmurf Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 The name this G-7 summit group gave thremselves even reeks of arrogance: The " TOP ACTS " ? While it's not debateable that some of these Corps are " TOP SCORING " corps, there is considerable disagreement that'd they all are the most entertaining acts each and every year. Far from it. Many... MANY fans.....find a lot of the " top acts" in their favorite 7 corps in any given year come from a mixture of those Corps found both within and from beyond the top 7 placement finishers. Some even find their personal " top acts : from outside the top 7 plsacing Corps. Phantom Regiment did not finish in the top 7 last year. By definition, that would not qualify them as a " TOP ACT " from last year. However, Phantom still was within my personal 7 favorite entertaining Corps last year, despite their placement finish. So this phrase 7 " TOP ACTS " from the press release they sent out reeks of arrogance, imo. In fact, wasn't it one of these top 7 corps not too long ago that were getting booed for their actions, and decisions on the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Does nothing for me !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiodb Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 I firmly believe the G7 originators would love for it to be a G21 someday. It is now. Obviously, then, that is not what they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustyboo Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 NEW TOURING CONCEPT Presented By Seven DCI Corps For 2011May 19, 2010 Background Discussions have been underway since January to explore how Drum Corps International (“DCI”) might better serve the interests of all drum corps, including those groups who have a history of success for the past 20 years or more. At the May 12-13 DCI Board of Directors meeting, Cadets Director George Hopkins, made a presentation on behalf of seven members of an ad-hoc caucus. DCI member corps were present to observe and participate in question/answer sessions that followed. Following the presentation and question/answer session, the DCI Board passed a motion requesting that the touring component of the plan be addressed in further detail at the next board meeting on July 16, along with a more in-depth financial analysis and supporting documentation. No action was taken at the meeting to adopt the proposal, in whole or in part. The presentation is the result of ad-hoc caucus discussions that included the Blue Devils, Bluecoats, Cadets, Carolina Crown, Cavaliers, Phantom Regiment, and Santa Clara Vanguard. Meetings have been conducted in-person, and through numerous teleconferences over the last four months. In an effort to ensure that the broader DCI community was aware of these discussions, the membership of Drum Corps International was informed of the meetings via phone calls made in March of 2010. DCI’s CEO and the Chairman of DCI’s Board of Directors were also informed of these meetings in writing. The group of seven has worked as an independent caucus, coming together in an effort to create a proposal that it hopes will be approved by the DCI Board and the membership of DCI. The Proposal The proposal offered for review to the DCI Board of Directors numbers more than 60 pages, and includes these highlights: * A plan to create a series of special events in addition to the usual competitive DCI schedule throughout the year, and feature Drum Corps International's "top acts" in fully produced big stadium shows. These events would include pre-show and post show activity, instant encores, interactive warm- up zones and fan participation in the judging process. * An open-ended suggestion to reduce the DCI infrastructure to find additional fiscal support for all member drum corps. * While continuing to service our ardent and supportive fan and alumni base, the group suggested a plan to better marry drum corps to scholastic music in the hope of supporting arts education, while at the same time generating an interested spectator base for the drum corps activity. * A competitive touring concept that would annually bring “two of the top corps” to join the Santa Clara Vanguard and Blue Devils each year on the West Coast beginning in 2011. There were also administrative points discussed that included pay allocations, governance issues, and other internal activity that would need to be approved by the full DCI membership at a future DCI meeting. At the center of the proposal is a detailed plan to feature DCI’s top acts, while sustaining the structure of the World Class, Drum Corps International and Tour Event Partner events that are currently in place. Since the proposed events would be in addition to the regular DCI tour schedule, the seven groups understand that on top of their usual performance commitments, they would shoulder a greater commitment to miles driven and number of events on their schedule. The proposal acknowledges there are different levels of performance ability, different resources and different goals that can and should be addressed for the good of all. With a plan in place, the goal is to increase the overall quality level and stability of all corps, as well as over time to increase the number of corps included in the proposed special events. Sustainability of the activity is a key objective. The proposal by the group of seven corps seeks to tackle several specific issues within the activity that have not been addressed with any serious action since the very successful Tour of Champions in 2004. The proposal as presented, is designed to be managed within the DCI structure and to bring fans more of what they expect – an exciting evening of drum corps! What becomes of it, time will tell. For now, it is an idea that is in progress and the group is continuing to develop the concept further. Kit Rodgers, President of BD Performing Arts and its flagship group the Blue Devils noted that the BDPA organization is committed to helping secure the future of the drum corps activity for many years to come. “We want drum corps to continue to be the standard-setting pageantry activity in the world, so that all of its performing groups, fans, band students, band directors, alumni and people around the world can enjoy and participate in this grand art form,” Rodgers said. “Our goal is to benefit organizations at all levels of the drum corps activity, and we are pleased to work with other leading organizations in this endeavor.” Added Bill Speakman, president of Youth Education in the Arts, the parent association of The Cadets, “YEA! supports this concept in total. It seems clear that more attention needs to be paid to the future of the activity and this plan seems to have potential. We expect compromise of course, but the time and effort spent by these seven directors and their organizations is impressive. After all, top shows more often - that is a winning concept for fans and the corps.” Jim Coates, the CEO of the Carolina Crown, added that the anticipation for developing ideas, creating opportunities and the abilities to continue working together as unified organizations with common philosophies excites the leadership of Carolina Crown. “There is no doubt the experience, dedication and passion involved in these efforts will bring much satisfaction for the fans both young and old,” Coates said. Jeff Fiedler, the CEO of the Santa Clara Vanguard said, “I'm happy to share that the Santa Clara Vanguard is part of an exciting effort to bring more drum corps to the West Coast each season. We're working together to develop and propose a new format and series of events which will expand the fan-base of our activity and bring the most exciting elements of drum corps to a larger audience, up close and personal, like never before!" Looking Forward Efforts to develop the proposal’s new touring model will continue through the summer with the hope that events and future plans can be announced in September 2010 for the summer of 2011. During the coming months additional discussions will continue as the seven organizations create a plan that includes detailed implementation timelines, analyzes financial implications, develop show formats, marketing concepts, and adjudication framework, with the goal the long lasting sustainability of the activity. For more information on this exciting concept, stay close to Drum Corps International at dci.org or email Jeff Fiedler at drumcorpsevents@gmail.com Send This Page to a Friend Printable Version Monthly Calendar • Merchandise • The Vanguardian • Dance Company Latest News • Alumni Directory • Support SCV • Corporate Partners • Contact SCV • About the Website Santa Clara Vanguard is a 501©(3) non-profit organization. No portion of this site may be reproduced without the express written consent of the Santa Clara Vanguard Booster Club. The contents of this site copyright © 1996-2010 Santa Clara Vanguard Booster Club, Inc. Feedback • Terms and Conditions (rev. 11/24/2008) • Privacy Policy (rev. 10/20/2008) All Rights Reserved He who laughs last, and I'm starting to chuckle.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF-LowBari Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 (edited) I reject your belief that this has to be a zero-sum situation. By your logic, the only way for the poor to get richer is at the expense of the rich, which doesn't seem to leave us any better off than before. Well if there is no poor left, then everything is left (and better) for the rich right? Sounds like the coal regions north of me during the Molly McGuire era, why waste money on basic needs for the workers. Guess if the "poor" corps are getting anythingit's at the expense of the "rich" corps. Way to put the activity first. So how is this better for the activity? And how does this help kids wanting to march? PS - Going with Daave, sounds like another "trial balloon" put up. Watch it get buried without mentioned any backlash. Edited May 20, 2010 by JimF-LowBari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suviduvi Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 I believe that the longer a corps has been around the more souvies they sell, because they have a bigger fan base. Their show may be bad one year, but they will still sell tons of stuff. I don't think anyone is disputing that. However, without the beginning of the show, there is no end of the show. Drum corps, and DCI, cannot exist in a manner akin to baseball. It has to operate on some sort of revenue sharing model (at least when it comes to appearance fees). The G7 corps already make more off souvie sales than the rest of DCI does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiodb Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 According to that line of reasoning, then the activity has been dwindling for quite some time. From those bemoaning the changes of the past decade, I keep hearing how there were 400+ corps in the 70's and 40,000 fans in attendance at Montreal. Well then how do you explain the decline in corps and fans that took place from the 70s through 2000? The decline you speak of has been in action for longer than I've been alive. So has elitism in drum corps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Obviously, the ELITE 7, think so highly of themselves they thiink NOTHING about the OTHER 14 ELITE WC CORPS !!! I see a crack starting to develop in DCI !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertPi1ot Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 Remember, its for the kids......Ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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