skywhopper Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 (edited) Cinecast is multi-cam, yes? Full 12-camera setup according to DCI. Okay, Liahona, here's the DCI announcement I mentioned with the explanation of the miking. It also mentions that the semis webcast will be the "12 camera setup" and I assume that's the same for the Prelims cinecast tonight. They use these two shows to practice for the shots they'll need to get to prepare the DVDs. Edited August 11, 2011 by skywhopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamarag Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 (edited) Does anyone have an idea of how those placements and spacing became so hugely different on the WC sheets? Here's the difference... Open Class and the Open Class sheets are about one thing: Execution. How clean you are. The composition is considered, but it doesn't carry anywhere near as much weight as achievement does. In World Class, it's a much more even split. That's why you saw a difference. Also, size matters in World Class, and BDB is not small. Here's a good comparison. During Jersey Surf and Teal Sound's last year in Open (2008 and 2009 respectively), they scored much higher than other Open class corps at World show throughout the season, and dropped when they hit Open-only shows at the end of the season. Since they were in evaluation years, they designed with World Class in mind (though not a completely World show) as part of the eval. Open corps may be on Open sheets early season at world shows, but the judging is more World-centric with a different tolerance. Don't ask my why, that's just how it is. Once clean was more important than content, they dropped. I hope I didn't confused things more. I know I spent most of 2009 confused once Teal got to Open-only shows and we got beat by corps we pounded days before. Edited August 11, 2011 by Kamarag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevingamin Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Kevin, you rock! I've updated the spreadsheet with all Open Class scores and an average score change for those corps. https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0AkOC7u8Z_kMTdG5TbXRMTGdJaUx2cVpwOE1aU2N3REE&single=true&gid=0&output=html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skywhopper Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 (edited) Haven't seen Jersey Surf's show before. Sounds great. Nice visuals. This is definitely a great year for bari solos. A good one to open this show. And there's another one, fantastic, for Kissed by a Rose. Wow! Oh, here's a third corps (at least) doing a heart shape on the field. Definitely a step up from Pioneer. I can see BDB outscoring them, but I don't think they will get knocked out of semis. Edited August 11, 2011 by skywhopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Matczak Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 I've updated the spreadsheet with all Open Class scores and an average score change for those corps. https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0AkOC7u8Z_kMTdG5TbXRMTGdJaUx2cVpwOE1aU2N3REE&single=true&gid=0&output=html it is interesting how well the international corps did on the WC sheets compared to the other OC corps,............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwscv87 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 He new this was coming. Please keep this garbage out of what is otherwise a great thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skywhopper Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 (edited) Pioneer 68.40 (-00.65 from Allentown) That makes: 75.15 (-19.85) Blue Devils B 73.35 (-21.35) Oregon Crusaders 72.60 (-21.60) Vanguard Cadets ----- Current Semifinal Cut ----- 69.35 (-22.15) Spartans 68.40 [-00.65] Pioneer 66.55 (-18.80) Yokohama Scouts 66.50 (-22.75) Revolution 65.80 (-21.05) Genesis 64.35 (-21.80) 7th Regiment 62.20 (-22.60) Music City 61.30 (-18.90) Jubal 60.65 (-21.65) Legends 57.50 (-24.40) Raiders 56.60 (-22.60) Forte 54.30 (-24.85) Colt Cadets 51.75 (-20.35) Les Stentors 48.40 (-21.15) Racine Scouts 44.20 (-18.85) Blue Saints 41.35 (-15.25) Spirit of New Jersey Cascades outscored Pioneer by 3.95 at Allentown, so if that spread holds up, that would put them 0.25 below Vanguard Cadets. Jersey Surf scored 4.5 over Pioneer which would land them between SCVC and Oregon. Same for Teal Sound. Mandarins would finish just below BDB, and Pacific Crest would be the first WC corps to outscore all OC corps. Sounds reasonable to me. Edited August 11, 2011 by skywhopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDinnes Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 (edited) Pioneer 68.40 (-00.65 from Allentown) And with that Pioneer is out of Semis, and SCVC is in. Edited August 11, 2011 by GDinnes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galen Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 that's "knew" To paraphrase Jeff Foxworthy, "If you have abysmal syntax, you might be a net troll" And for the record, Bawker rocks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galen Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 ...and learn how to spell at least! It's he KNEW this was coming... What's the topic of this thread again? I'll take "Trolls" for $1000, Alex. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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