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I think the point is that the G8 represents the epitome of drum corps. Flag code is flag code, and even during the 70's post-Watergate era was observed as proper presentation of the colors. Either do it right or don't do it at all; corps at the G8 level should know.

This.

Maybe it's just the Eagle Scout in me getting fired up, but trivializing Flag Code really just reflects poorly on the person complaining, not the people trying to get it done right and with proper respect and dignity.

I'm trying to remember which G8 corps didn't have one. I sure hope it wasn't my Cavies, given their Boy Scout roots, but I can't remember right now!

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Thank you Stu for your post. I was really troubled by those comments of the other poster as well.

Oh how they do not understand the ironic naive hypocrisy in which the U.S. flag is actually the symbol that gives them the ability to hold their various opinions on trivializing the respect of U.S. flag.

Alas, I understand this very well.

In the future, might I ask you to please refrain from insulting my intelligence, as I have never once slighted yours.

We share difference opinions, sure. There's no need to claim my ignorance by stating that I do not understand something.

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Fair point in that perhaps in hindsight the poster should not have used in his criticism the phrase... " G8 Corps ".

That said, perhaps likewise your reply should not have used the phrase " Commie G8 " to refer to the G8. There is nothing socialist, nor communist in the least about the G8, imo. ( Fascist perhaps, depending upon ones views of their beliefs, tactics, personal perceptions of themselves in relationship to others etc ). 'Just wanted to chime in with by belief that the G8 does not believe in a sense of unified community, self sacrifice for the good of the whole, etc or much of anything at all to do with the beliefs, values, etc inherent in the philosophy of Communism. ( not that I'm a proponent of Communism here, mind you.' Just wanted to point this out, thats all. )

Just to be totally clear...I was not implying the G8 were pinko, commies.

It was satire directed at the ridiculousness of associating the G8 as being disrespectful of America.

The G8 in and of itself has NOTHING to do with the OP's topic of showing respect for the flag...but I really don't think the flag really had anything to do with it, but simply serving as a means for him to express his personal dislike of the G8.

In other words, using the flag for his drum corps political purpose.

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"No person shall display the flag of the United Nations or any other national or international flag equal, above, or in a position of superior prominence or honor to, or in place of, the flag of the United States at any place within the United States or any Territory or possession thereof"

thanks. I was thinking of all the flags at the UN, but that is actually not US territory, so that explains that.

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...I'm trying to remember which G8 corps didn't have one. I sure hope it wasn't my Cavies, given their Boy Scout roots, but I can't remember right now!

Cavaliers had an American flag. I wasn't aware of the corps that didn't have one until someone actually called me on my cell phone during the finale to ask why. Personally, I wouldn't read anything into it and perhaps it was an oversight. I know what this corps has done in honor of the military and there would be no reason to question their patriotism.

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I think the point is that the G8 represents the epitome of drum corps. Flag code is flag code, and even during the 70's post-Watergate era was observed as proper presentation of the colors. Either do it right or don't do it at all; corps at the G8 level should know.

I absolutely agree.

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Just to be totally clear...I was not implying the G8 were pinko, commies.

It was satire directed at the ridiculousness of associating the G8 as being disrespectful of America.

The G8 in and of itself has NOTHING to do with the OP's topic of showing respect for the flag...but I really don't think the flag really had anything to do with it, but simply serving as a means for him to express his personal dislike of the G8.

In other words, using the flag for his drum corps political purpose.

I understand that you were not literally implying the G7 were" pinko, commie". You were using satire by invoking the phrase " pinko, commie ". Likewise, I simply said if you were going to put yourself in the shoes of the poster as what he would have said, you could have called the G7 " Fascists " instead of "pinko Commies", as your hyperbole satire then would have worked a bit better for you, thats all re the "G7 ". I did acknowledge that the poster could have simply left out the " G8 " aspect of his criticism of the Corps flag display.

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(d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, ...

In '73 (or '74 ... it's a long time ago! ;-), we were almost run out of town because a couple of our marching members had tennis shoes with Stars & Strips on it. It definitely was NOT a US flag. Never-the-less, we were the "godless hippie Communists from California"! :shutup:

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Just to be totally clear...I was not implying the G8 were pinko, commies.

It was satire directed at the ridiculousness of associating the G8 as being disrespectful of America.

The G8 in and of itself has NOTHING to do with the OP's topic of showing respect for the flag...but I really don't think the flag really had anything to do with it, but simply serving as a means for him to express his personal dislike of the G8.

In other words, using the flag for his drum corps political purpose.

So basically your saying it would have been better for the OP to just call out those corps by name which he failed to mention instead? I agree G8 was a poor choice by the OP here, but which is really worse?...I'm just asking is all(no political agenda on my part)...

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Alas, I understand this very well.

In the future, might I ask you to please refrain from insulting my intelligence, as I have never once slighted yours.

We share difference opinions, sure. There's no need to claim my ignorance by stating that I do not understand something.

I did not single out any "one" person and in fact used the generic terminology "they"; if you placed yourself in the category of "they" it is not of my doing but yours.

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