So Sad

[Sportster]

93' was a stellar year for DC,unless you were a fan of Star. I think they got bilked but that's just me. That year they were unreal, tight clean and wow, good. Phantom was experimenting with African percussion and I loved their show and so did most audiences I saw. BD had a great MUSICAL show. Cadets were great. It was a fantastic year for DC. But the negativity surrounding Star finally got to them and they left the activity, sadly. Definately miss them and their unreal hornline sound.....

[Jeff Ream]

93' was a stellar year for DC,unless you were a fan of Star. I think they got bilked but that's just me. That year they were unreal, tight clean and wow, good. Phantom was experimenting with African percussion and I loved their show and so did most audiences I saw. BD had a great MUSICAL show. Cadets were great. It was a fantastic year for DC. But the negativity surrounding Star finally got to them and they left the activity, sadly. Definately miss them and their unreal hornline sound.....

not to let the facts get in the way of your rant, but Star had plans to leave DCI before finals happened.

[BRASSO]

I have a theory that many "old timers" (I might be included in that category) are really just in love with their view and memory of what drum corps meant to them at that point in thier life, and anything compared to that would be sub par. Doesn't matter what you do. Kind of like living in a house your whole childhood, leaving that home to return 20 years later and thinking, "I don't remember it being this small." Nothing will compare to their memory because they (we all) tend to view personal experiences through rose colored lenses.

On occasion I have watched some of the old school stuff. Quite frankly, while it was best in class for its time, it's still very basic music composition, visual design and talent. Individual demand is pretty low, assuming you can high mark time well. After a bit I usually have to turn it off because it starts to conflict with my memory of what I think it was versus what it actually was. Garfield 1984 is a huge exception to this.

Then there is the story of Fenway Park.For years and years, folks clammored to have the " old " replaced with the new. " Tear it down, replace with artificial turf, time to change", etc was the frequent mantra heard everywhere, including some quarters in Boston. Other cities and teams built spanking new and big stadiums. They were fresh, new, had all the latest amenities. Boston resisted. Partly out of space restrictions and political unwillingness in some quarters, but mostly because a lot of folks in Boston did not want to give up on the place. As the years went by, the 70's, 80's, 90's, into the 2000 era, new stadiums were built everywhere. Then people began to look around after they were built. They began to witness something many had not anticipated. The newer stadiums were real nice and all, but it was the old Fenway Park ( and at the time Chicago's Comiskey Park ) that was unique, different, and began to have an allure and a likeable quality missing in some of the newer antiseptic larger stadiums with no history at all, as the other stadiums has been bulldozed and reduced to rubble and a new, modern monolith created somewhere else for the team. But Fenway Park was different. The place looks almost identical to that of 1946. Nothing changed there. As time went on, the younger and newer baseball fans could join not only their Mothers and Fathers, but their Grandfathers and Grandmothers and go to a baseball game there and the place would be exactly as Grandpa and Grandma remembered it, right down to the sitelines, scoreboard, bleachers, the "Pesky pole "the bullpen, the " Green Monster ", and the grandstand girders where you had to look around to see the action if you had a vision impaired 50% off seat. Generations could share in the same experiences of going to the games there . The newer fans, those under 30, are the MOST apprreciative that the city elders never gave in to the request to demolish Fenway Park. Boston values history and tradition while trying not to be captive to it. This became its emost endearing quality of Fenway Park. That it did not go quietly into the night. That it would fight the scrapping of a place that had over 100 years of played experience in the old " dump ". The fact that Boston did not follow the others lead for new stadiums has found itself today a treasure that not only Bostonians value, it has become a tourist attraction where people now from all over the world can walk into the same Fenway Park that Babe Ruth, Ted Williams, Honus Wagner, Stan Musial, Cy Young, Steve Carleton, Hank Aaron,Bob Gibson, Bob Feller, Roberto Clemente, Reggie Jackson, Nolan Ryan, Mickey Mantle, Don Sutton, Tom Seaver, Willie Mays, Ty Cobb, Joe Dimaggio,etc once played in. Fans can walk onto the field and touch and feel the grass and the very ground that the current grass springs from that was present in days that were simpler and in which dreams were made. Those who go to Fenway Park look beyond its obvious imperfections structurally, and are able to witness history come alive and as if time never changed. THAT is the beauty of it all. And why it has become a treasured landmark by all baseball fans, not just Boston Red Sox fans. Some things are worth changing. And then there are things that the wisest move was not to have changed anything at all.

Edited July 27, 2012 by BRASSO

[Jeff Ream]

you could say the same for Wirgley Field

[BRASSO]

you could say the same for Wirgley Field

Yes, I meant to say " Wrigley Field " above as a matter of fact and incorrectly mentioned " Comiskey Park " in my remarks as another example. But we both made an error as you typed it in as " Wirgley " Field ( haha )

Edited July 27, 2012 by BRASSO

[kaseyW]

Then there is the story of Fenway Park.For years and years, folks clammored to have the " old " replaced with the new. " Tear it down, replace with artificial turf, time to change", etc was the frequent mantra heard everywhere, including some quarters in Boston. Other cities and teams built spanking new and big stadiums. They were fresh, new, had all the latest amenities. Boston resisted. Partly out of space restrictions and political unwillingness in some quarters, but mostly because a lot of folks in Boston did not want to give up on the place. As the years went by, the 70's, 80's, 90's, into the 2000 era, new stadiums were built everywhere. Then people began to look around after they were built. They began to witness something many had not anticipated. The newer stadiums were real nice and all, but it was the old Fenway Park ( and at the time Chicago's Comiskey Park ) that was unique, different, and began to have an allure and a likeable quality missing in some of the newer antiseptic larger stadiums with no history at all, as the other stadiums has been bulldozed and reduced to rubble and a new monolith created somewhere else for the team. But Fenway Park was different. The place looks almost identical to that of 1946. Nothing changed there. As time went on, the younger and newer baseball fans could join not only their Mothers and Fathers, but their Grandfaters and Grandmothers and go to a baseball game there and the place would be exactly as Grandpa and Grandma remembered it, right dpwn to the sitelines, scoreboard, bleachers, the "Pesky pole "the bullpen, the " Green Monster ", and the grandstand girders where you had to look around to see the action if you had a vision impaired 50% off seat.Generations could share in the experinces there. The newer fans, those under 30, are the MOST apprreciative that the city elders never gave in to the request to demolish Fenway Park. Boston values history and tradition while trying not to be captive to it. This became its emost endearing quality of Fenway Park. That it did not go quietly into the night. That it would fight the scrapping of a place that had over 100 years of played experience in the old " dump ". The fact that Boston did not follow the others lead for new stadiums has found itself today a treasure that not only Bostonians value, it has become a tourist attraction where people now from all over the world can walk into the same Fenway Park that Babe Ruth, Ted Williams, Honus Wagner, Stan Musial, Cy Young, Steve Carleton, Hank Aaron,Bob Gibson, Bob Feller, Roberto Clemente, Reggie Jackson, Nolan Ryan, Mickey Mantle, Don Sutton, Tom Seaver, Willie Mays, Ty Cobb, Joe Dimaggio,etc once played in. Fans can walk onto the field and touch and feel the grass and the very ground that the current grass springs from that was present in days that were simpler and in which dreams were made. Those who go to Fenway Park look beyond its obvious imperfections structurally, and are able to witness history come alive and as if time never changed. THAT is the beauty of it all. And why it has become a treasured landmark by all baseball fans, not just Boston Red Sox fans. Some things are worth changing. And then there are things that the wisest move was not to have changed anything at all.

This makes me miss the Astrodome. It hasn't been torn down, but I think they have plans to tare it down.

[mingusmonk]

This makes me miss the Astrodome. It hasn't been torn down, but I think they have plans to tare it down.

You might want to view this slideshow ... or not.

http://www.houstonpress.com/slideshow/8th-wonder-a-tour-of-houstons-rotting-astrodome-36498114/

Edited July 27, 2012 by mingusmonk

[sladehayes]

I just put on my favorite BD show - '88, and then listened to '12 for the first time, immediately afterwards. I got goosebumps after both. Mission accomplished, as far as I am concerned. Yes, 2012 is far more esoteric and thematic than 88 was, but the overall impact, for me, is still there.

[the_aborigine]

That is all.

[ecamburn]

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Shocking that people can't agree on the correct/best/proper form of an activity based in music and artistic movement.