oldsoprano Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 I've always thought a great show for Spirit would be "The Johnny Mercer Songbook." Play all music that was written or co-written by Savannah, Ga., native Johnny Mercer. Surely there's a good show among these possibilities: "Lazy Bones" (1933) (music by Hoagy Carmichael) "Moon Dreams" with Chummy MacGregor "P.S. I Love You" (1934) (music by Gordon Jenkins) "Goody Goody" (1936) (music by Matty Malneck) "I'm an Old Cowhand from the Rio Grande" (1936) "Hooray for Hollywood" (1937) (music by Richard A. Whiting) "Too Marvelous for Words" (1937) (music by Richard A. Whiting) "You Must Have Been a Beautiful Baby" (1938) (music by Harry Warren) "Jeepers, Creepers!" (1938) (music by Harry Warren) "And the Angels Sing" (1939) (music by Ziggy Elman) "Day In, Day Out" (1939) (music by Rube Bloom) "I Thought About You" (1939) (music by Jimmy Van Heusen) "Wings Over the Navy" (1939) (music by Harry Warren) "Cuckoo in the Clock" (1939) (music by Walter Donaldson) "Fools Rush In" (1940) (music by Rube Bloom) "Blues in the Night" (1941) (music by Harold Arlen) "I Had Myself a True Love" (music by Harold Arlen) "I Remember You" (1941) (music by Victor Schertzinger) "Tangerine" (1941) (music by Victor Schertzinger) "This Time the Dream's on Me" (1941) (music by Harold Arlen) "Hit the Road to Dreamland" (1942) (music by Harold Arlen) "That Old Black Magic" (1942) (music by Harold Arlen) "Trav'lin' Light" (1942) (music by Jimmy Mundy and James Osborne "Trummy" Young) "Skylark" (1942) (music by Hoagy Carmichael) "Dearly Beloved" (1942) (music by Jerome Kern) "I'm Old Fashioned" (1942) (music by Jerome Kern) "My Shining Hour" (1943) (music by Harold Arlen) "One for My Baby (and One More for the Road)" (1943) (music by Harold Arlen; theme song of the 1957–1958 NBC detective series, Meet McGraw, starring Frank Lovejoy) "Dream" (1943) (words and music by Johnny Mercer) "Ac-Cent-Tchu-Ate the Positive" (1944) (music by Harold Arlen) "G.I. Jive" (1944) (music and words by Johnny Mercer) "Out of This World" (1945) (music by Harold Arlen) "On the Atchison, Topeka and the Santa Fe" (1945) (music by Harry Warren) "Laura" (1945) (music by David Raksin) "Come Rain or Come Shine" (1946) (music by Harold Arlen) "Any Place I Hang My Hat Is Home" (1946) (music by Harold Arlen) "Autumn Leaves" (1947) (music by Joseph Kosma) "The Glow-Worm" (1952) (music Paul Lincke) "I Wanna Be A Dancing Man" (1952) (music by Harry Warren) "Satin Doll" (1953) (music by Duke Ellington and Billy Strayhorn) "Midnight Sun" (1954) (music by Lionel Hampton and Sonny Burke) "Something's Gotta Give" (1954) (words and music by Johnny Mercer) "Jubilation T. Cornpone" (1956) (music by Gene de Paul) "I'm Past My Prime" (1956) (music by Gene de Paul) "Moon River" (1961) (music by Henry Mancini) "Days of Wine and Roses" (1962) (music by Henry Mancini) "I Wanna Be Around" (1962) (words and music by Johnny Mercer and Sadie Vimmerstedt) "Charade" (1963) (music by Henry Mancini) "Lorna" (1964) (music by Mort Lindsey) "Emily" (1964) (music by Johnny Mandel) "Summer Wind" (1965) (music by Henry Mayer) "Whistling Away the Dark" (1970) (music by Henry Mancini; from the film Darling Lili) "Drinking Again" (with Doris Tauber) "When October Goes" (music by Barry Manilow) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phan771 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Guessing you're referring to my post here, apologies if you are not. The American South has a pretty vast and diverse musical culture. Most of the musical genres indigenous to the US originated there, there's a rich folk music culture, and more than a few classical and wind band composers have come from the South. And then there's all kinds of music that, while it did not originate in the South, is inspired by it. It seems like you, SOA, and many others seem to think of "Southern" as just the stuff Spirit played in its glory days. And if it that's what Spirit thinks its indentity is then of course that will be limiting. But that's not a problem with being the "Southern" corps, it's a lack of imagination and awareness on the part of designers, alumni, and fans. The same logic could be applied to Troopers and Pioneer. "Americana" and "Celtic" are only limitations if you allow them to be limitations. You are correct with your information regarding the music culture and birthing of much American music south of the Mason-Dixon line. I do think that when people want Spirit to be "southern", it is how SOA defined it in the past. If the corps did all music written by a wide array of famous southern composers, I am not sure we would hear or see it as "southern". I think they were on the right track the past three or so years with including some Spirit-esque things, but incorporated into show themes that allowed for a broad range of source music and imagery. I found the corps to be regaining their old brand of swagger but with a new twist that allowed them to be more creative and competitive. I am sure their designers set out to create the next best show for themselves. But that is never easy nor successful. Yes, Troopers and Pioneer have similar struggles. I would not want the responsibility of making any of those groups climb in ranking. I would suggest we look to Madison and that despite their recent mild climb and successful rebranding of themselves, are finding it tough to move much, if any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmccain Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Well if Spirit truly wants to be a "Southern" DC, then maybe they should play, "Smoke on the Water" and adopt Grambling State's marching style. Kidding of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derbydawg Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Well if Spirit truly wants to be a "Southern" DC, then maybe they should play, "Smoke on the Water" and adopt Grambling State's marching style. Kidding of course. ummm. really? Kidding or not. really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmccain Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 ummm. really? Kidding or not. really? I know. I should be ashamed of myself for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKT90 Posted July 11, 2014 Author Share Posted July 11, 2014 Do you think some corps are content with their non profit status and as a side shoot they field a corps too? Meaning the only reason the corps exists is to run the non profit and they aren't as concerned about "investing" into moving up the ranks? Kind of like the Chicago Cubs exist to put money in the owners bank account, they aren't interested in winning a world series, or the Cleveland Browns for that matter, while other organizations such as the Patriots are committed to winning Super Bowls, or the Yankees...relating corps to sports to draw a parallel. Just a thought that occurred to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim K Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 (edited) When Spirit first hit the scene in 1977, I felt there were geographical distinctions in corps. Now I am speaking in general, and these characteristics were shared to some degree among all the regions, but the Northeast corps such as 27th, Bridgemen, BAC, Garfield,and North Star had a certain grittiness, don't mess with me style. The Midwest had a more populist appeal as we saw with Blue Stars, Madison, Cavies, and Phantom. In the West, Blue Devils, SCV, and Anaheim Kingsmen who were still making some noise at that point were the standard bearers and innovators. Spirit had a certain style that was different. They performed some "southern" pieces but they were defined by a swagger and power. This made this southern corps distinct, I suppose a few years later we saw some of these characteristics in Suncoast Sound in style if not musical choices. Now it has been over thirty years since we heard some of the Spirit classics such as "Sweet Georgia Brown" (yes I know it was performed last year but not like 79 or 80) or the closer that can still bring tears to people's eyes "Let it Be Me" (if you think I'm kidding, watch the video of their performance after learning of the death of Jim Ott; the thought of 128 teens and early twenty somethings performing so powerfully when their hearts were broken is a tear jerker), but I think 79/80 is what many people still want from Spirit. For me, their "Porgy and Bess" opening and "Willow Weep for Me" have some of those Spirit sparks. There are some portions of the show that don't quite have that certain something, but it's not impossible. I think that what could be hurting Spirit this year is that their strengths are strong which only highlights their weaknesses. I expect that by Allentown, if not Atlanta, these things will be corrected. While I do think they will have to fight to make finals, this si due more to the reported successes of Crossmen, Troopers, Blue Stars and perhaps Colts than the weaknesses of Spirit. Edited July 11, 2014 by Tim K 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HornTeacher Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 (edited) Oh, how I dearly wish to know what Jim Ott would have done with "God Bless The Child." AND heard his SOA line perform it. Edited July 11, 2014 by HornTeacher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrownBariDad Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Do you think some corps are content with their non profit status and as a side shoot they field a corps too? Meaning the only reason the corps exists is to run the non profit and they aren't as concerned about "investing" into moving up the ranks? Kind of like the Chicago Cubs exist to put money in the owners bank account, they aren't interested in winning a world series, or the Cleveland Browns for that matter, while other organizations such as the Patriots are committed to winning Super Bowls, or the Yankees...relating corps to sports to draw a parallel. Just a thought that occurred to me... And this is posted in Spirit's thread instead of starting a new one because ... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsoprano Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Do you think some corps are content with their non profit status and as a side shoot they field a corps too? Meaning the only reason the corps exists is to run the non profit and they aren't as concerned about "investing" into moving up the ranks? Kind of like the Chicago Cubs exist to put money in the owners bank account, they aren't interested in winning a world series, or the Cleveland Browns for that matter, while other organizations such as the Patriots are committed to winning Super Bowls, or the Yankees...relating corps to sports to draw a parallel. Just a thought that occurred to me... I don't have any way of knowing if your theory holds true with any other corps out there, but I can tell you without a doubt that no one's bank account has ever been boosted by money generated by Spirit of Atlanta. If fact the thought of such a thing is pretty laughable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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