fsubone Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Maybe it is as much continual stimulus as show design. If you eat spicy food, eventually you get used to it, and it's not as exciting or spicy. So if you watch 10,20,30 years of drum corps, eventually it seems you'd become a bit desensitized to it. Eventually the sensation wears down, even if the performance is just as exciting and if the dish is just as spicy as it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUARDLING Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Maybe it is as much continual stimulus as show design. If you eat spicy food, eventually you get used to it, and it's not as exciting or spicy. So if you watch 10,20,30 years of drum corps, eventually it seems you'd become a bit desensitized to it. Eventually the sensation wears down, even if the performance is just as exciting and if the dish is just as spicy as it was. Not with everyone for sure,,,thank goodness..............but good point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Maybe it is as much continual stimulus as show design. If you eat spicy food, eventually you get used to it, and it's not as exciting or spicy. So if you watch 10,20,30 years of drum corps, eventually it seems you'd become a bit desensitized to it. Eventually the sensation wears down, even if the performance is just as exciting and if the dish is just as spicy as it was. However, this does not explain the continued popularity of musical groups which still sell out stadiums after 30 - 40 years like the Rolling Stones, U2, Rush; or other, and older, activities like the NFL Super Bowl or the MLB World Series. The ongoing 'sensation' for those groups and activities has not become diminished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsubone Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 However, this does not explain the continued popularity of musical groups which still sell out stadiums after 30 - 40 years like the Rolling Stones, U2, Rush; or other, and older, activities like the NFL Super Bowl or the MLB World Series. The ongoing 'sensation' for those groups and activities has not become diminished. Both the World Series and Super Bowl have been having attendance issues lately as well. The NFL has also changed quite a bit in 40 years. Can't really explain bands who continue to draw big crowds after 40 years, especially at the insane prices they charge. Could you imagine the outrage is DCI charged as much as the Stones do for a show? U2 at least continues to release new music to bring new people in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Both the World Series and Super Bowl have been having attendance issues lately as well. The NFL has also changed quite a bit in 40 years. Can't really explain bands who continue to draw big crowds after 40 years, especially at the insane prices they charge. Could you imagine the outrage is DCI charged as much as the Stones do for a show? U2 at least continues to release new music to bring new people in. those bands charge it because they know they can get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HornTeacher Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 (edited) If it is indeed true that the crowds are less fervid these days, I can guess that one big reason is that the crowds are less local. Drum corps used to be an intensely local activity, drawing members and followers from the same city or parish or neighborhood. Drum corps shows would feature several corps from the same city or state, many being in intense rivalries with each other. Now, drum corps participation is much more diffuse. The big corps draw their members from all around the country, even the world. As well, the major rivalries in drum corps are no longer regional, but national. So the result is a crowd with less emotional investment than BITD. Sic transit, baby. Oh, and as for the Lucas Oil place, I find it an intimidating and unpleasant place to watch drum corps. So many distractions and comforts, such awful acoustics, such a boxed-in, dark feel. Hard to get excited in there. Give me Whitewater any friggin day. I fully agree with you, quietcity. I think it is very similar to the sports fan who has less emotional investment in their chosen team, simply because of free-agency. We are literally cheering for a "new" team every 3-4 years, instead of the day when a given roster may have been set for, for the most part, 5-10 (or more). Edited March 8, 2014 by HornTeacher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 those bands charge it because they know they can get it But the question is: Why, after 30 - 40 years, can they still get it? What appeal do they have which brings those who have seen them many times to continue to pay the outrageous prices for tickets, to bring in new fans to pay the outrageous prices, and to sell out pro sports stadiums all across the nation, and world-wide, each and every tour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigW Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 But the question is: Why, after 30 - 40 years, can they still get it? What appeal do they have which brings those who have seen them many times to continue to pay the outrageous prices for tickets, to bring in new fans to pay the outrageous prices, and to sell out pro sports stadiums all across the nation, and world-wide, each and every tour? They provide a total experience. The performers are there for you as the spectator. They want to create and provide a meaningful experience that will make you want to come back and tell others to go. I'm guessing this was a leading question in hopes someone provided this answer, but that's part of a genial discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsubone Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 But the question is: Why, after 30 - 40 years, can they still get it? What appeal do they have which brings those who have seen them many times to continue to pay the outrageous prices for tickets, to bring in new fans to pay the outrageous prices, and to sell out pro sports stadiums all across the nation, and world-wide, each and every tour? Nostalgia as well? Look how many people at those concerts were in their teens when these bands first appeared, and now have the disposable income to blow $300 a ticket to go see them now. The acts haven't really changed that much, except getting more technology in them. But people want to remember their "golden years" by seeing these bands still perform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) But the question is: Why, after 30 - 40 years, can they still get it? What appeal do they have which brings those who have seen them many times to continue to pay the outrageous prices for tickets, to bring in new fans to pay the outrageous prices, and to sell out pro sports stadiums all across the nation, and world-wide, each and every tour? because people like what they do. Most of these bands roll out some new albums, but few of the new albums anymore do the business older ones did. The fans go for the experience, to hear their favorite band play stuff they know and love. Plus, given the amount of years and material some of these bands have put out, you can be guaranteed every tour some old staples will be retired for a while and others brought back. And let's be honest...For Stones and Rush, you never know when it may be the LAST tour Rush has been going for years, and nothing they have put out, which I like, has since the early 90's sold like the 70's and 80's did. 3 years ago Rush decided to bring back the entire Moving Pictures album in running order live....at least 2 of those songs hadn't been played live since the mid 80's. Fans ate it up! in 96, for the first time 20 years, they played the entire first side of 2112 live. Fans went ape. They haven't done it since. But thats because when they came back in 02, they dug into other stuff, plus the standards, and then the current release material. With drum corps, every year is a new show, and can be a roll of the dice. Think back...how many corps back in the day had "their song", the one you knew you'd hear every year? Most of them. Bands like Rush, the Stones, U2...they aren't trying to make art, they aren't getting scored in competition. They know to get fans to pay, they have to put on a show people want to see and hear. I promise you, the day the Stones stop playing Satisfaction in concert, people riot. Let me know when Cavies roll out Rainbow, SCV Clowns and Madison MYNWA year after year. Edited March 9, 2014 by Jeff Ream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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