BoyWonder1911 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I want to see what happens at Prelims if they pulled the performance order out of a hat. I'd really, really like to see what happens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallace Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Sorry sir. May I have another? Sorry sir. I notice no one ever complains about those who do not use capital letters at all in a heading. For instance... "all forum headings are equal except some are more equal" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumcorpsfever Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 (edited) Most judges have a pretty good idea of the score they are going to give a corps before they even take the field. I think the only time something might change that is if a corps is worlds better, or worlds worse than what the judge is expecting. This is exactly what can be most frustrating about dci scoring - it's slotting. Edited June 27, 2014 by drumcorpsfever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUARDLING Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 This is exactly what can be most frustrating about dci scoring - it's slotting. theres another thread on this subject so I wont get into it much here other than. Do some judges who have ingrained themselves into the activity for self purpose need to go..............YES maybe some BIAS with some .......Maybe Neighborhooding of corps based on their own doing.....YES Slotting ....NOPE...........................jmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Biggest Fan Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Sorry sir. May I have another? Sorry sir. Quit being weird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 It is the judges job to BOTH rank and rate. Rank as to which corps is better/worse than another corps, but also rate them, by placing them in the proper box. So with fewer corps at a show, it is easier to keep scores closer and have corps that are close to each other in the top of box 3 and have a bit of separation to the next tier in say, the middle of box 4. Whereas, at a larger show with more corps, or even a show with mostly corps in the same tier, it makes sense that there will be larger gaps in scoring. If you only have two corps which will be in the top of box 3 area, its easy. You score one, and then decide if the second is above or below them and by how much. But if you know you have two more corps in that same general range, you need to leave room in case the third and/or fourth corps fit in between corps one and two. exactly. And you need to be 100% certain of the box criteria 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCHEZman Posted June 27, 2014 Author Share Posted June 27, 2014 I notice no one ever complains about those who do not use capital letters at all in a heading. For instance... "all forum headings are equal except some are more equal" So many liberal socialist on here. I use CAP LOCKS because my topics need to be read and pondered MORE than the others! Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeWhoWaits Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I want to see what happens at Prelims if they pulled the performance order out of a hat. I'd really, really like to see what happens. Too hard for the judges to "get it right" if they have to score the top 3 hours apart instead of minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterA Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 It is the judges job to BOTH rank and rate. Rank as to which corps is better/worse than another corps, but also rate them, by placing them in the proper box. So with fewer corps at a show, it is easier to keep scores closer and have corps that are close to each other in the top of box 3 and have a bit of separation to the next tier in say, the middle of box 4. Whereas, at a larger show with more corps, or even a show with mostly corps in the same tier, it makes sense that there will be larger gaps in scoring. If you only have two corps which will be in the top of box 3 area, its easy. You score one, and then decide if the second is above or below them and by how much. But if you know you have two more corps in that same general range, you need to leave room in case the third and/or fourth corps fit in between corps one and two. And this is exactly what I was talking about in my previous comment. You are saying the judges know prior how many corps will be in each box, prior to seeing the show that evening. How do the judges know which box the corps would be in before the show? Guesses, assumptions, previous judging of that corps, knowing what other judges have put them at the previous evening, all seem to factor in to that prior to the show that evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyWonder1911 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Too hard for the judges to "get it right" if they have to score the top 3 hours apart instead of minutes. And how do you know they "get it right" anyhow? Just once, I'd like to see Prelims judged normally, then Semi's order randomly drawn. They can go back to ranked order for Finals. But just one time I'd like to see it happen. A 19.3 should be a 19.3 any day, any time, any corps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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