N.E. Brigand Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 A different 1927 AL Nationals Parade video from Paris: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMhc7Xfu-iQ The drum and bugle corps that I can identify are the Kankakee, IL Post at the 10:08 mark, and the former national champion Boys of '76 from Racine, WI at the 11:28 mark. Kankakee took 2nd place (by just .80) in the 1927 championship. Miami's Harvey Seeds Rebels won the title. Neat! Although I think, as often happens with silent film, that it's being played back a bit too fast in this video. Often silent film was shot and projected at a slower speed than the 24 fps which became standard with sound film. This gets complicated by the fact that the cameras were hand-cranked, and sometimes shot at slower or faster rates for effect, but it usually didn't look as sped-up and jerky when originally projected as it often appears when we see silent films shown nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dixon Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNI4fQRJAMY Madison 1955 - is this the oldest video of a drum corps on YouTube? Gives a fascinating insight to drum corps back then. I wonder if all corps followed this style/approach? Here's 1955 Cadets https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GURsMyWGcus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overhype Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 True symmetrical drill really started about 1974 when back-field entry was allowed. The style on the video starting on the side 1 goal line (aka known as the 'starting line') was used because during big contests like VFW would sometimes have 70+ corps competing - this was the most efficent way to keep the show moving along. You underwent inspection on side 1 at the back of the end zone while the corps before yours was on the field, then moved up to the starting line, performed and ended in the side 2 end zone. Once on the field, most drill was symmetrical. Very interesting. I wonder how much dead time there was between shows back in those days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overhype Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 While I like modern shows just fine, I have to say that, if there was a contest of local corps like this playing tunes on G bugles, I would totally go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF-LowBari Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Neat! Although I think, as often happens with silent film, that it's being played back a bit too fast in this video. Often silent film was shot and projected at a slower speed than the 24 fps which became standard with sound film. This gets complicated by the fact that the cameras were hand-cranked, and sometimes shot at slower or faster rates for effect, but it usually didn't look as sped-up and jerky when originally projected as it often appears when we see silent films shown nowadays. Wasn't the silent days at 16 fps which added to the jerkiness? Of course back then the people were used to it so not problem. Kind of like people today being used to Hi-Def saying the DCI vids from the PBS days look horrible. And Brian as for ID'ing Boys of '76 (aka Racine AL Post #76) it also helps that I have a copy of the book about them between the wars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Thunder Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 And Brian as for ID'ing Boys of '76 (aka Racine AL Post #76) it also helps that I have a copy of the book about them between the wars. Written by George Fennell? He and I traded historical drum corps periodicals from our collections about 30 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCI-86 Posted August 29, 2014 Author Share Posted August 29, 2014 So as far as I recall, drum corps weren't allowed to use marching mallet instruments until about 1974. In the 1955 Madison video they used upright bells. So anyone know the history. Could drum corps have used up righ bells up to 1974? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF-LowBari Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 (edited) Written by George Fennell? He and I traded historical drum corps periodicals from our collections about 30 years ago. Thats the one, I couldn't remember his name and the book is at home. He also did "Racine: Drum Corps Capital of The World". It's one of a series of books called "Images of America" that has old pictures of whatever town or subject being discussed. Have a bunch of the "Images" books including one from Hanover, PA that has 1920s pics of the local American Legions corps.... who I joined about 80 years later.... Edit: I googled and the Boys of 76 book is called: "The Racine American Legion Post 76 Drum and Bugle Corps: A Scrapbook History: 1916 - 1946". Has a chapter on the trip to Paris in 1927. Edited August 29, 2014 by JimF-LowBari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxingfred Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Madison was Bad Azz in 1955! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HornTeacher Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 http://www.dci.org/news/view.cfm?news_id=9477d468-5ab1-49fb-8afa-01258707950d This has 2 short audio snippets...1952 and 1955. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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