ironlips Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 This topic clearly stirs some strong opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUDAKITE Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 This topic clearly stirs some strong opinions. ALL the videos of the activity we love have suddenly disappeared because of legal red tape and lawyers wanting an unattainable amount of money from youth preforming arts... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quad Aces Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 ALL the videos of the activity we love have suddenly disappeared because of legal red tape and lawyers wanting an unattainable amount of money from youth preforming arts... The "ALL the videos of the activity we love have suddenly disappeared" isn't exactly true. As has been mention earlier in this thread, pirated videos, the nature of which is completely ironic in this situation, still exist on several platforms. Past videos still exist - on physical media - and probably are for sale on eBay as we speak/type. STREAMING of old/current shows in our activity (except live performances) has disappeared - hopefully to return at some point. PHYSICAL media of this year's show and the ability to purchase physical media prior to this year's show has also disappeared (again, hopefully to return at some point). None of the above mentions the segments of shows that are backed out on the existing (or current, if this year ever gets made/sold) physical media due to copyright restrictions. I'm tired after typing that :) - see how confusing the issue is?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF-LowBari Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 My question on using original music has been misunderstood as think it can still get expensive. So Mr Holland writes his opus. He registers/copyrights his work so no one can take it as their work. Holland wants to play his opus and has to go thru the copyright company like anyone else. The copyright company says "fork over the bucks like anyone else". What am I missing, Holland wrote the piece but he doesn't control the copyright 100%. replace "opus" with "corps show" as needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironlips Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Unless Mr. H has sold or given away his copyright, he need not ask permission from that party. He retains all of the original 6 rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF-LowBari Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 OK so you can get works copyrighted and you can still keep the rights. Just a bit confused with companies holding the rights to so many works. Other than copyright companies paying to buy the rights, not sure why the artist would sell their rights. thanks.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpsband Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 OK so you can get works copyrighted and you can still keep the rights. Just a bit confused with companies holding the rights to so many works. Other than copyright companies paying to buy the rights, not sure why the artist would sell their rights. thanks.... distribution. but that really no longer applies. the publishing companies are clawing to stay relevant. they're doomed. they just don't know it yet. the web has changed distribution forever. we just happen to be stuck in the ugly middle. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironlips Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 OK so you can get works copyrighted and you can still keep the rights. Just a bit confused with companies holding the rights to so many works. Other than copyright companies paying to buy the rights, not sure why the artist would sell their rights. thanks... The copyright initially belongs to the author, regardless of whether or not he registers it. It makes sense to do so since that creates a claim of ownership as of a specific date, registered with the US Copyright Office.(Register of Copyrights). If a dispute arises later, this is your legal proof of ownership. Without it you can not conclusively establish that. There are no "copyright companies", per se, but one can partner with a publisher whose task it is to promote revenue-generating uses of your work, track these, collect the fees, and report back to you...for a fee. One of the reasons artists or others who hold these rights sell copyrights outright is to generate immediate cash when necessary, as opposed to waiting for long-term income to arrive a little at a time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDz Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 There are so many rights, and many are somewhat conflicting. A good analogy is that the father/son who own American Pharoah, only own the rights to RACE the horse. They have already sold the breeding rights, which take force after the racing retirement. So what happens if they race American Pharoah again and the horse becomes injured and has to be put down? Can you spell L-A-W-Y-E-R-S ? In the case of composers, their rights are extended to others for a purpose. Their original rights as the creators stay in tact. When you think of all the great shows and great music over the years, almost non was WRITTEN by our creative staff members. Where would Phantom Regiment be without the great classical composers? Speaking of Phantom, how well do we remember SCV's treatment of Phantom of the Opera? The rights holders are not looking to make money off the kids..... they're looking for us to pay for the viewing.....a fair request that I will certainly honor, "IF the price is right." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommeee Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 DCI was selling ALL past years DVD's at Allentown this year. In fact, the person told me point blank, "you don't need to buy it today, because these are all available on the DCI website." How, exactly, is this possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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