chaddyt Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Stonehenge as a symphonic piece is atmospheric, dour, foreboding, mysterious, and a just plain joyless dirge. Literally a stone age dirge. Whear's symphony is about sacrificing a woman in a primitive Druid ritual. The corps may be better off playing the ludicrous soundtrack from The 1950's sci fi pic Queen of The ######. Stonehenge is an historic monument, and in order to bring it to life, you must have Druids-- and the allusion to Spinal Tap is so at the forefront of modern culture, the risk of a full flop is impossible to deny. Don't go there. Stonehenge has three parts, Solstice, Evocation and Sacrifice. The movements are so self-important, such abstract 1970's avant garde garbage that it smacks of bad 70's super vixen exploitation films. The huge risk is that if you portray the creation or ritual use of Stonehenge, the monument, it may end up being comedic. The only way that Stonehenge can be visually produced with any reference to the monument is if it is lampooned as satire with the huge monoliths chasing dwarf Druids and damsels with missing severed limbs eventually dominating and crushing the slabs. Avoid this 1970's experimentation and any practical depiction of the monument or its creators at all costs. In turn, be prepared for your depth of concept score to suffer as the visual depiction will not reference the obvious point of focus of the symphony-- the monument itself. That just doesn't work. If you create a pure modern dance depiction of the music itself, without any reference to the monument, you're at risk of denying the original intent of the piece as an atmospheric homage to the primitive rituals surrounding the monument, and the show design just won't make sense. ASSESSMENT SCORES: Fits the drum corps medium with its rhythms, accessibility and range of mood for a large scale venue with boisterous audience - Score 0 The music is buoyant, at least in part, and is a joy for young people to perform - Score 0 The historical context of the piece offers some visual possibility and dramatic interpretation - Score 0 The era the piece was written offers some visual possibility of interpretation- Score 0 The piece adds humor and avoids self importance - Score 0 The piece is free from current events reference which tarnish the intent - Score 0 The piece avoids the depiction of mysogyny or gruesome ritual - Score 0 The piece has fast paced tempos in part, appealing to George Hopkins' primary criterion - Score 100 DISASTER. AVOID. If only you could go back in time and warn the 1998 judging panel of their impending errors.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000Cadet Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Stonehenge as a symphonic piece is Van Der Roost's best, but impossible to dramatize. Stonehenge is an historic monument, and in order to bring it to life, you must have Druids-- and the allusion to Spinal Tap is so at the forefront of modern culture, the risk of a full flop is impossible to deny. Don't go there. The huge risk is that if you portray the creation or ritual use of Stonehenge, the monument, it may end up being comedic. The only way that Stonehenge can be visually produced with any reference to the monument is if it is lampooned as satire with the huge monoliths chasing dwarf Druids and damsels with missing severed limbs eventually dominating and crushing the slabs. Avoid this experimentation and any practical depiction of the monument or its creators at all costs. In turn, be prepared for your depth of concept score to suffer as the visual depiction will not reference the obvious point of focus of the symphony-- the monument itself. That just doesn't work. If you create a pure modern dance depiction of the music itself, without any reference to the monument, you're at risk of denying the original intent of the piece as an atmospheric homage to the primitive rituals surrounding the monument, and the show design just won't make sense. ASSESSMENT SCORES: The music is buoyant, at least in part, and is a joy for young people to perform - Score 0 The historical context of the piece offers some visual possibility and dramatic interpretation - Score 0 The era the piece was written offers some visual possibility of interpretation- Score 0 The piece adds humor and avoids self importance - Score 0 The piece is free from current events reference which tarnish the intent - Score 0 The piece avoids the depiction of mysogyny or gruesome ritual - Score 0 The piece has fast paced tempos in part, appealing to George Hopkins' primary criterion - Score 100 LIMITED DRAMATIC DEPTH. AVOID. Umm, thank you? But this is not what I was asking. Honestly, I would rather not see them do another Stonehenge. The 1998 version was the best and I don't think they would be able to top it. All I really wanted to know is what is the basis of the show for 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleran Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 All I really wanted to know is what is the basis of the show for 2016. Announcement Dec. 12, if I heard correctly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000Cadet Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) Announcement Dec. 12, if I heard correctly. TANKS!!!! I'll be back December 12th. Edited November 19, 2015 by 2000Cadet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksampsondavis Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Looks like the TV show is happening after all! If he's saying it publicly now, it must be pretty set in stone. https://youtu.be/6pvQxZlS7lU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfrontz Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Stonehenge as a symphonic piece is Van Der Roost's best, but impossible to dramatize. Stonehenge is an historic monument, and in order to bring it to life, you must have Druids-- and the allusion to Spinal Tap is so at the forefront of modern culture, the risk of a full flop is impossible to deny. Don't go there. The huge risk is that if you portray the creation or ritual use of Stonehenge, the monument, it may end up being comedic. The only way that Stonehenge can be visually produced with any reference to the monument is if it is lampooned as satire with the huge monoliths chasing dwarf Druids and damsels with missing severed limbs eventually dominating and crushing the slabs. Avoid this experimentation and any practical depiction of the monument or its creators at all costs. In turn, be prepared for your depth of concept score to suffer as the visual depiction will not reference the obvious point of focus of the symphony-- the monument itself. That just doesn't work. If you create a pure modern dance depiction of the music itself, without any reference to the monument, you're at risk of denying the original intent of the piece as an atmospheric homage to the primitive rituals surrounding the monument, and the show design just won't make sense. ASSESSMENT SCORES: The music is buoyant, at least in part, and is a joy for young people to perform - Score 0 The historical context of the piece offers some visual possibility and dramatic interpretation - Score 0 The era the piece was written offers some visual possibility of interpretation- Score 0 The piece adds humor and avoids self importance - Score 0 The piece is free from current events reference which tarnish the intent - Score 0 The piece avoids the depiction of mysogyny or gruesome ritual - Score 0 The piece has fast paced tempos in part, appealing to George Hopkins' primary criterion - Score 100 LIMITED DRAMATIC DEPTH. AVOID. I am starting to think that Channel3 is trolling us. Either that, or this is light hearted self-satire. Either way, I am intrigued. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xandandl Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) Cadets doing 33 shows including prelims, semis, finals. Nice Northeast week around July fourth and then a month later. Here's the full list for Cadets. http://www.dci.org/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=33500&SPID=166009&SPSID=991819&DB_OEM_ID=33500 (Ssshh! They are doing Southern shows in Florida, North Alabama, and Georgia...but don't tell certain people... Edited November 19, 2015 by xandandl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleran Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Curious if anyone knows off the top of their head - when was the last time Cadets' DCI tour went to the west coast? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xandandl Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) Curious if anyone knows off the top of their head - when was the last time Cadets' DCI tour went to the west coast? Wasn't it 2011, the year they won DCI? They even went north up to Seattle with Hop throwing fish at the Fish Market. Vid of same is somewhere on DCP. Edited November 19, 2015 by xandandl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleran Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Thanks. Just looking ahead - maybe they'll swing out there one of the next few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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