Richard Lesher Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 47 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said: seriously as the issue is financial and not member safety, thats why DCI buries their head in the sand. As it pertains to finance I'm only hanging my hat on that because the proof/documentation is black and white. It's not an opinion or hearsay. It's a statement by the CA DOJ. I only presume underneath all that overwhelming resistance to compliance is lord knows what. The question to be answer is: What is preventing administrative compliance, over and over, and over again and even in light of making it widely known to all stakeholders????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Lesher Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 16 minutes ago, JimF-LowBari said: What is the justification for SCV or Sound Sport corps to be non-profit? My car club had non- profit status based on by laws (or was it business statement) that the club provided educational support for the old car activity. Then the state finally asked wth do they do that was educational. Turns out it wasn’t that much so… so long non profit status until the club forked over more $$$. Oh yeah giving $$$ to the parent organization didn’t really count (oops) Well........... "back in my day" SCV explicitly provided music/performing arts education. So much to the point, Gail Royer (the founding director) a state credentialed educator worked with the local Jr College (Mission College) to grant members of SCV college credit units for simply marching with SCV. I literally have 8 semester units on my college transcripts that I used toward my first bachelor degree that I earned as a result of marching with SCV. SCV really used to line its ducks up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeN Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 13 minutes ago, JimF-LowBari said: Thought Spirit took themselves out for the season so they (new management?) could get their act together. Don’t remember DCI getting involved Had to go look it up. The victim reported it in August, the investigation was concluded in October and no response regarding the recommendations in the report was given to the victim by DCI or Spirit. She went public on January 8, 2022. https://www.drumcorpsplanet.com/forums/index.php?/topic/176402-sexual-assault-spirit-of-atlanta-2021/#comment-3916475 DCI/Spirit reply was only 8 days later, on Jan 16, 2023. https://dci.org/news/spirit-of-atlanta-withdraws-from-2022-dci-tour "With the assistance, guidance and encouragement of Drum Corps International, the Spirit of Atlanta organization will withdraw from the 2022 season to reflect, reorganize and plan for a stronger organization in 2023 and beyond.: Sorry for the aside, just pointing out that it took public pressure to make DCI move. Mike 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Lesher Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 16 minutes ago, RiverCityAndTroopersFan said: How much money is SCV making from bingo?? It can’t be THAT much At it's best SCV nets over $3,000,000 from Bingo alone. If SCV was thrifty with it's budget, and Bingo was staffed by volunteers (which it was until 2020) then SCV could fund a competitive world class corps and not one marching member would have to pay a dime. Remember, I'm a Chartered Financial Analyst, with an MBA in Finance, 20 years in banking and investments, and spent 7 years on SCV's board and most of it as their Treasurer. Now that the Vanguard Cadets are out of the picture with Bingo alone, there is no reason for Vanguard to charge members to march. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAYGO Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Being that Vanguard just hosted a camp this past weekend, I thought I'd come to the SCV 2024 thread to see how it went. Silly me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Lesher Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, RiverCityAndTroopersFan said: How much money is SCV making from bingo?? It can’t be THAT much This is Fiscal Year 2019 before COVID hit and SCV imploded. Edited November 27, 2023 by Richard Lesher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverCityAndTroopersFan Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, Richard Lesher said: At it's best SCV nets over $3,000,000 from Bingo alone. If SCV was thrifty with it's budget, and Bingo was staffed by volunteers (which it was until 2020) then SCV could fund a competitive world class corps and not one marching member would have to pay a dime. Remember, I'm a Chartered Financial Analyst, with an MBA in Finance, 20 years in banking and investments, and spent 7 years on SCV's board and most of it as their Treasurer. Now that the Vanguard Cadets are out of the picture with Bingo alone, there is no reason for Vanguard to charge members to march. 3 MILLION???? Who’s playing all this bingo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF-LowBari Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, MikeN said: Had to go look it up. The victim reported it in August, the investigation was concluded in October and no response regarding the recommendations in the report was given to the victim by DCI or Spirit. She went public on January 8, 2022. https://www.drumcorpsplanet.com/forums/index.php?/topic/176402-sexual-assault-spirit-of-atlanta-2021/#comment-3916475 DCI/Spirit reply was only 8 days later, on Jan 16, 2023. https://dci.org/news/spirit-of-atlanta-withdraws-from-2022-dci-tour "With the assistance, guidance and encouragement of Drum Corps International, the Spirit of Atlanta organization will withdraw from the 2022 season to reflect, reorganize and plan for a stronger organization in 2023 and beyond.: Sorry for the aside, just pointing out that it took public pressure to make DCI move. Mike Ok I didn’t see or forgot the “assistance… of DCI” part that shows DCI was involved. And yeah nothing done until it came out publicly. Which was a big part of the problem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scheherazadesghost Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, DAYGO said: Being that Vanguard just hosted a camp this past weekend, I thought I'd come to the SCV 2024 thread to see how it went. Silly me.... Their FB/Insta has stuff. Don't think the SCV circle in-the-know hangs out here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Lesher Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, RiverCityAndTroopersFan said: 3 MILLION???? Who’s playing all this bingo? The Bay Area silicon valley of California ($$$), and I think SCV gets 4 Bingo Days a week. So yea, throw in all the other income sources, and donations (when they can legally solicit them) SCV could be looking at $5,000,000 in working cash flow before collecting once cent from one kid. Easily $4,000,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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