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I'll start this off and others can finish

In 1975....Lakeview Shoreliners merged with 71st Lancers to for The Imperial Regiment

In 1977...Royal Coachmen merged with Frontiersmen (who were St. Johnsburg Blue Sabres and Red Raiders who merged earlier in the season).

In 1982...some members of Greece Cadets got with Mighty Liberators and Lockport Blazers to form The Renegades

1982...Other members of Greece Cadets merged with someone (HELP HERE) to form Northmen and then merged with Patriots to form Fusion....did I get that right?

1976...Mark Twain Cadets merged with Vestal Grenadiers to form Southern Tier Express.

Okay NY experts add more!

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Can't help you with those mergers, Kieth, but the thing that strikes me most about all you have mentioned is the

number of corps that had to either merge or look for some other way just to stay alive. :( The number of kids

and staff involved there could be 1,000 or more, in that I counted 13 or so corps you inquired about. And you are

only inquiring about a fraction of the corps that went through the process...

That is just amazing to me that there were once SO many places to march in every state, and now we have a

core (no pun intended) nucleus of what... 80 or so corps nationwide that come to compete on a national level?

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Can't help you with those mergers, Kieth, but the thing that strikes me most about all you have mentioned is the

number of corps that had to either merge or look for some other way just to stay alive. :( The number of kids

and staff involved there could be 1,000 or more, in that I counted 13 or so corps you inquired about. And you are

only inquiring about a fraction of the corps that went through the process...

That is just amazing to me that there were once SO many places to march in every state, and now we have a

core (no pun intended) nucleus of what... 80 or so corps nationwide that come to compete on a national level?

I think Syracuse Marauders may have merged too with some corps.

Also...Spiegelaires merged with someone to form Avant Garde

Was American Patrol a merger? Tri-Town Cadets and someone?

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During the DCI era, besides the ones you mentioned NY has also had these mergers (and attempted mergers):

1973

Riversiders + Carter Cadets

Brassmen + Shoreliners (CT)

1974

Hyde Park Vagabonds + Bridge City Cadets

1975

American Patrol + Tri Town Cadets

Avant Garde=Speigleaires + Emerald Knights

Yankee Marauders=Magnificent Yankees + Syracuse Marauders

Guardsmen (NY) + Envoys

Empire Statesmen=Troy Muchachos + Trinity Cadets

1978

Empire State Express=Mark Twain Cadets + Grenadiers

Hudson Valley Indians=Kingston Indians + Continental Cadets + Pacers

76’ers + Grey Ghosts

New Horizons=White Sabers + Phantom Revival

Phase II=Hamburg Kingsmen + Dunkirk Patriots

1979

Sounds Of Central New York + Marauders + 76'ers

1982

Fusion=Greece Cadets + Patriots

Renegades=Blazers + Mighty Liberators

Eastern Excelsior=L.I. Squires + St. James Saints

1983

New York Express=Mello-Dears + Empire State Express (1 show only)

Long Island Grenadiers=Eastern Excelsior + St. John's Crusaders +

Medford Grenadiers

Cadets Of Upstate New York=Greece Cadets + Gauchos

Firebirds (NY) + Black Knights (marched under both names during the season)

1984

Intensity=Mello-Dears + Empire State Express

Northmen=Greece Cadets + Firebirds

1985

Mello-Dears + Barons + Empire State Express

1986

Avant Garde + Northmen (didn’t last)

1991

Nightbeat + Free Delivery + Long Island Sound Sr (Nightbeat later pulled out)

Sunrisers + Nightbeat (didn’t last)

2000

Kips Bay Crusaders=Latin Knights + Kips Bay Knight Club

Cadets of New York City=Knight Club + Cadets of Brooklyn

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Yea Greece Cadets were on a roll trying to merge with anyone they could.

I really liked them and was proud in 1975 when thewy won DCI "A" Class Championship. They went down hill and I think 1979 went back up and then just couldn't hold it together.

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I purposely omitted the King's Regiment, since one of the corps involved was from NJ, but then I did include the 1973 Brassmen/CT Shoreliners merger, so I should have included King's Regiment too.

I was their percussion arranger and instructor in that era.

In 76 Mickey Palmisano and I worked the line together...he was an alum of the Knickerbockers.

In 77, our best year...the great drummer/instructor Jack Pratt worked the line with me.

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Who could forget:

1965

Empire Statesmen = Emerald Cadets + Irondequit Statesmen

Grey Knight Crusaders = Rochester Grey Knights + Hilton's Fabulous Crusaders

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Who could forget:

1965

Empire Statesmen = Emerald Cadets + Irondequit Statesmen

Grey Knight Crusaders = Rochester Grey Knights + Hilton's Fabulous Crusaders

In 1964, the Utica Blackhawks merged with the Prospect Crusaders to form the Utica Executives...

(My first corps!)

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