regularsopguy

This listing just went up, cool!! http://cgi.ebay.com/Kanstul-Soprano-Bugle-Key-G-/200628291469?pt=Brass_Instruments&hash=item2eb660c78d

i know they're not cheap but kanstul is somehow fast tracking bugles. i'm told they are shippng in two to three weeks instead of months!

yay impulse!

you youngsters forget the bikini girls that jumped out of a giant hat at the end of VK's show. not to mention the "sex cymbals" of the late 80's and 90's

if anyone gave a rat sass, then this would have come up last august.

you forgot to mention KANSTUL (even though no one plays them anymore I guess) um..can you say "free horns"?

no, no, no. no "I Am Spartacus", please. you know, it DOESN'T really need to be said aloud I also highly dislike the built-in gimmick Vanguard uses. no offense to the Vanguard, but the more people catch on to this "gimmick", the lower their scores! viva Vanguard, no gimmick in '08!

I had this Tivo'd but finally got to watch the whole thing. Patrick is very inspirational!! kudos to him, his dad and family for all the support. kudos to Kanstul for that beautiful trumpet too!!

Tivo'd it, finally got to watch the whole thing with my family. wow, Patrick is an inspiration. that was pretty cool of Kanstul to donate that trumpet too.

i'm pretty sure Zig does not have an email address but if you send an email to sales@kanstul.com or to their sales manager Charles Hargett - charles@kanstul.com then they will forward it to Zig

that's a GREAT idea!

when I marched corps we played mostly Kanstul and some Kings. those were built to last many years, unlike today's disposible brass. also, we were a poor corps. we had to take care of our equipment unlike some corps i've seen who disrepect their equipment because they didn't fundraise, work bingo, or take out a loan to pay for it.

the only "old craftsman from King" that mattered was zig kanstul. He designed all that marching brass. i still want to know what a "training horn" is? like a training bra? or training wheels? because the Kanstul stuff is top of the line, and using them for "training" is disrespectful to all the sponsors and donors who paid for them. and at six years old, they are just getting broken in. Dynasty horns are designed to last only about three to four years (think "Bic") but Kanstul will last for 10+

of course I read this, but i'm still soured. in my opinion the Kanstul's are not training horns. my family and i wanted to see this horn in competition (and we almost saw it make top twelve!!). this is not about Jupiter making and testing better horns for the good of the activity, this is about money and now I feel that Academy sold out. to Mr. Fox who said that Kanstul doesn't give ANYTHING away, this is true. but maybe he feels he doesn't have to BUY the business. i can't speak for him. the school where I work has a full set of kanstuls and these are the best horns money can buy. we never even THOUGHT of trying to get anything FREE from them, we just wanted the best horns we could get. Academy aside tho, i think that in a few years that Jupiter will be like Yamaha. it will be generally accepted and will probably be a quality product.

i have to express my disappointment with Academy. my family sponsored one of the Kanstul horns they play, and I know some other sponsors. maybe we'll get together and write a letter expressing our disappointment. not only that, the kanstul horns sounded marvelous, and gave Academy a distinctive sound which made them stand out from the rest of the pack. i'm very disappointed here

told ya so!

heh heh, who'd trade a KANSTUL for a Dynasty??

[quote name='HornsUp' @ Nov 14 2007, 02:52 AM) * Intonation is always relative, never absolute. So a good player in a good ensemble is constantly adjusting, usually subconsciously. I prefer to play models of G baritones that don't need a slide mechanism to acheive harmonically pure tuning So you don't think that Zig Kanstul has made any improvements to his designs in 30 or 40 years? Kanstul says that the tune-any-note feature was built into their horns at the request of Wayne Downey when the Blue Devils played Kanstul.

you mean CARRIE Ann, right?

wow, great assessment. I've been saying for awhile that Kanstul is not that much more expensive and now it seems i'm proven mostly right. my school invested in Kanstul, which will retain their value over time. the expenditure was worthwhile. i know some shcools that purchased dynasty and are having to replace them after only three or four seasons. not so with Yamaha which seems to hold up (from the directors I know), the Kings of course are also sturdy. i ike the sound of Kanstul, which doesn't seem as shrill as some horns. if it was my program i'd look closely at Kanstul and try to make that investment.

I hope Pioneer decides to go with King or Kanstul. it seems like every corps that made the change over the years went with Yamaha (who never even made G bugles) or Dynasty. Since I hear and see so many horror stories about Dynasty and since there are soooo many corps using Yamaha, i hope Pioneer goes with King or Kanstul. It would be interesting to see that knd of support in the lower echelons (no disrespect intended!!) of DCI ^OO^

i heard stories from brass caption friends of mine about how they don't like the dy-nasty horns but that they were given a great deal or great financing or whatever. but they hate the horns. maybe the DCI and DCA winners aren't playing regular horns, they're playing handpicked horns. of course they won't complain about them because they didn't have to pay much for them. <**> i'm just sayin'... the King's and Kanstul's are much better just a little more expensive.

why selling them after only two years? does "partnered" mean that Buccs have to buy new horns every two years? man, i bet Dynasty is making a killing off that financing agreement!

Kanstul made two valve bugles for the Velvet Knights as early as 1984 or 1985, the were mostly unmarked.

agree on first statement! Kanstul horns are not extremely expensive. you might be thinking of the list price. in my experience Kanstul horns are only a bit more than Yamaha or dynasty, like by $30-$40 more on stuff like mellos and baris. For the money, my band program has had no problems with that little bit more investment for a horn that will last for 10 years+ disagree on the last statement. We have kanstuls that are almost 10 yrs old and are intact. I couldn't say the same for any dynasty horns i've seen at that age.