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  1. So I'm going through some scores from DCI Finals past and was shocked to see the scores from Semi-Finals to Finals. Perhaps I was so blown away by Phantom coming from behind and tying BD for the title and I didn't pay attention to the scoring changes and place changes that took place. So here goes. So did the bottom 9 Corps have bad performances? Did it rain? Did Phantom Regiment performance wake up the judges? I assume the performances at Semi's were that good. Keep in mind back then our first viewing of the all these shows was when DVD's or VHS tapes were delivered, so I have no idea how
  2. Hi everyone, as part of my drum corps poll series, I’ve come up with my next match up. Throughout the 2017 season Pioneer and Jersey Surf went head to head at numerous competitions throughout the season. At the DCI World Championships, Pioneer finished 34th and Jersey Surf finished 27th. Even though there is a gap between the two, that gap might close up next season. Pioneer is on a mission to field a full Corps next season. Within the goal of marching a full corps next season, Pioneer has a goal of marching a full hornline of 80 brass next season. As of right now, they have 44 brass members r
  3. Remember that there are risks inherent in comparing scores from different shows. AS OF SEPTEMBER 30 1. 91.050* The Company -- Kerkrade, Limb., Neth. 9/30 (+3.750 9/23) [1st I.C. Finals; 30th W.C. Prelims; 1st DCUK; 1st DCE] SEASON COMPLETE (at 1st) 2. 81.975 Vanguard Cadets -- Indianapolis, IN 8/11 (+0.475 8/10) [1st O.C. Finals; 16th W.C. Semis] SEASON COMPLETE (at 1st) 3. 80.050 Blue Devils B -- Indianapolis, IN 8/11 (-0.125 8/10) [2nd O.C. Finals; 19 W.C. Semis] SEASON COMPLETE (at 2nd) 4. 76.225 Legends -- Indianapolis, IN 8/11 (-0.575 8/10) [3rd O.C. Finals; 2
  4. Thanks for considering reading this wall of text. tl;dr No there are no conspiracies. There is virtually no herd mentality on the national level. Money nor reputation matters. Become a judge if you aren't already. Also--thank you if you're a fan of any of the pageantry activities. Not meant to be a dissertation, but a reflection of my many years of experience as a judge on the field and indoor. No I am not a DCI judge but I have been judging with DCI, WGI, and BOA national judges and have had many discussions with said men and women who are actively making these tough decisions.
  5. June 22, 2017 vs. June 23, 2016 Higher scores out of the gate in 2017 than 2016. #1 and #2 are consistent with Bluecoats edging out Carolina Crown by 1.35 this year, an increase over last year's 0.50 margin.
  6. I have participated and have been following drum corps for a very long time. I have adopted the changes over the years with open arms. I love most of those changes and have no wish to turning the clock back. I start with these points because I know some punk will accuse me of being old school or for not understanding modern drum corps. Rest assured I understand it quite well and I am very familiar with the judging sheets and scoring process. Having said that, it is a shame what the judges are doing to BC this year. I have watched closely all season and have seen the bias that is so obvio
  7. Hello! I'm a trumpet player and I write and play my own music, mostly for trumpet ensemble. I'd like to share with you my new in-progress web site. I just started it last night. I give away most or all of my music for free; let me know if you are interested. There are recordings of me playing most of it in multi-track using GarageBand. Example: Sincerely, Robert Walliczek
  8. It's a SKYLINER SHOW DAY - and our HOME SHOW. Weather is amazing!! Come on out, and see a great show. TONIGHT! Jake Sobeski Stadium, 120 Boston Ave., West Pittston, PA! Thunderbirds! Hurricanes! Bushwackers! White Sabers! NY Skyliners Alumni! Caballeros Alumni! and of your course your SKYLINERS! Tickets are $15 for adults, $10 for kids - 18 and under, if you wear your show shirt of band jacket or are under 6 years old, YOU GET IN FREE!
  9. Three weeks from today, DCP will have its first postings after we have seen actual performances. In prep for that, anyone interested in offering up a brief - brief - tutorial on how judging works? I’m not a doofus, but also not qualified (nor even interested) in the details necessary at the judge level. Rather, I’d like to be a little more intelligent about what I am seeing and hearing with respect to how scores are determined. Primarily, I want to enjoy the shows. So “be a little more intelligent” is an important qualifier. To put this in context, here is this: I’m a long-time
  10. Just in case we didn't have enough ways to over-analyze scores, I have created another one. This isn't groundbreaking; I just worked to align the calendars between 2015 and 2016 (started and ended about a week earlier last year) so that we can see how things compare at approximately the same time of the year each season. Note that there is 1 more day of competition in 2016 so there will be no side-by-side analysis for June 24, 2016. Also note, that this chart will always show the most recent score received to date.
  11. Keep in mind, I believe that only once the winner of this show has won the championship (going back to 2011 when all the corps participated the same day) That corps was the undefeated monster that was the 2014 Blue Devils. That being said, who do you think wins this show and do you think whoever wins this show will win it all? My prediction Blue Devils will win this show and Carolina Crown will go on to win in the finals. I could see Bluecoats also winning this show, but for some reason my mind has been made up about Crown winning this year since I saw the show at Muncie.
  12. I marched with Troopers in the 80s and find I still enjoy following drum corps, not only nostalgia but also keeping up with present developments and competition. I make it out to 1-2 shows a year. I look forward to the discussion and reconnecting with old friends and making new ones.
  13. Rank - Latest Score - Date and Location of Latest Score (Change from, and date of previous score) Open Class: 1 - 94.20 - Reading Buccaneers - 8/29 Reading PA (+2.50 - 8/22) 2 - 93.55 - Hawthorne Caballeros - 8/29 Bridgeport CT (+2.50 - 8/22) 3 - 92.85 - Cadets² - 8/29 Reading PA (+3.95 - 8/22) 4 - 91.00 - Minnesota Brass - 8/22 St Peter MN (+0.10 - 8/21) 5 - 89.90 - Fusion Core - 8/29 Reading PA (+3.15 - 8/22) 6 - 89.50 - Kidsgrove Scouts - 8/29 Bridgeport CT (+14.55** - 7/25) 7 - 88.60 - White Sabers - 8/29 Reading PA (+2.20 - 8/22) 8 - 87.95 - Atlanta CV - 8/22 Rockmart GA (+7.25 - 8/1)
  14. Corps (in preforming order): Start Time: 7:30 PM Weather: -The Crossmen Partly Cloudy, high of 97 -The Bluecoats -Carolina Crown -The Blue Devils -Santa Clara Vanguard -Phantom Regiment -The Cadets -The Cavaliers WHO'S ALL GOING??? My Predictions: 1st: Cadets 2nd: BD 3rd: Coats 4th: Crown 5th: SCV 6th: Cavies 7th: Phantom 8th: Crossmen
  15. Greetings DCP Marketplace! I am looking for someone who might have an extra copy of The Blue Devil Book of Drumming they'd be willing to sell, or maybe if you have it on PDF - either way. Have tried eBay for a long time, but no luck. If so ... please feel free to email me: Many thanks! Mark
  16. Organized by latest score, on the model of Spandy's DCA thread. For a weighted list of all DCI corps for the past week, see hostrauser's threads in the W.C. forum. For comparative graphs of any two corps over time, select DCP's "Scores / Stats" button above. 1. 82.325 - Blue Devils B (8/8 Indianapolis, IN) [+1.525 8/7] 1st at O.C. Championships; Season Complete (at 1st [15th W.C.]) 2. 80.200 - Vanguard Cadets (8/8 Indianapolis, IN) [+0.900 8/7] 2nd at O.C. Championships; Season Complete (at 2nd [18th W.C.]) 3. 74.075 - Genesis (8/8 Indianapolis, IN) [-1.100 8/7] 3rd at O.C. Championships
  17. Rank - Latest Score - Date and Location of Latest Score (Change from, and date of previous score) Open Class: 1 - 94.25 - Caballeros - 8/23 Reading PA (+1.65 - 8/16) 2 - 93.70 - Buccaneers - 8/23 Reading PA (+1.15 - 8/16) 3 - 92.35 - Minnesota Brass - 8/16 St Peter MN (+1.10 - 8/15) 3 - 92.35 - Fusion Core - 8/23 Reading PA (+2.50 - 8/16) 5 - 90.10 - Bushwackers - 8/23 Bridgeport CT (+6.25 - 8/16) 6 - 89.35 - Cadets² - 8/23 Reading PA (+2.0 - 8/16) 7 - 88.60 - Atlanta CV - 8/16 Rockmart GA (+8.25* - 7/26) 8 - 83.75 - Hurricanes - 8/23 Bridgeport CT (+2.55 - 8/16) 9 - 83.50 - Sunriser
  18. I published the following tweets on Finals day: Top 4 scores of all time are: 99.15 (05 Cadets & 02 Cavs) 99.05 (02 Cavs (semis) & 09 BD) 98.9 (10 BD) 98.8 (89 SCV & 03 BD) And then followed it up with I guess I should have mentioned that BD's score last night of 98.95 is both the highest Semis score ever (incorrect! 2002 Cavs was higher) and the third highest score ever. And I was taken to task by user @Brilow7
  19. Just for the fun of it, I went back to the start of the 2014 season to see which corps had improved the most over the course of the year. I took the first recorded score for each World Class corps, and then compared it to the score they received in their final performance. This turned out to be quite revealing, because not only did the Blue Devils set a new record with their amazing score last Saturday, but they came further than any other corps this year when measured against their own season-opening performance. I think this measure is in some ways even more impressive than a corps' overall
  20. Hey guys, We made an attempt to predict who's going to win drums this year in DCI by crunching numbers from 40ish years of recap scores, and we also discovered some judging trends. If you've got 5 minutes to spare, come check it out!
  21. Lots of agreement early on that this range would be an exciting one to watch as we go into finals. These placement seem to have become consistent since just before San Antonio. So, current placement a lock? percent chance of moving up? percent chance of moving down? Of course if someone moves up, someone has to move down or tie (God forbid). My thoughts: Crossmen: 12th place A LOCK show and performance places them there solidly Troopers: 13th place A LOCK not enough in the show construction to get them higher, too good to move down Colts: 14th place A LOCK this coul
  22. Curious about that question, I took a few minutes to look at the past three years to see how much each corps' score has increased between the Southwestern regional and the Championship prelims (selected rather than semis or finals because all corps appear). Only corps who played in both events were counted--which explains Jersey Surf having no number for 2011. (Also, penalty deductions, of which there were only two, were restored on the grounds that they were anomalies that masked actual improvement, for good or ill.) I included the two corps that folded during that time. First, these are the
  23. There's an afternoon occurance in Arkansas where on a hot summer's day, sometimes the clouds will decide to explode and dump eleventy billion metric tons of water. A perfect set-up for a drum corps show, no? God would not have any of it, as He took His mighty hand and shoved that mess aside just in time for the 8pm delayed start. I wish He would have thrown in a big divine blow-dryer as well. We could have seen full-on versions of these great shows with no short-cuts or boo-boos. That being said, a great evening was enjoyed by all, including my two teens and their tag-along friend. I will be