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Guess Who # 452 ?

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If you *know* who it is.... please wait a while (not everyone is on here all day or even daily for that matter)

If there have been no Guesses..........Then give a *challenging* hint.

When giving hints on these try to be creative and just dangle the tiniest tidbit. Make people really think / work on it. Then wait it out a while before tossing another tiny vague tidbit...

C'mon we've got to make these last a little longer. PLEASE??

Also, any comments made MUST be made in good taste... this is a fun loving thread... not a revenge match. Please spew your venom elsewhere.

Please submit any questions and / or pics in their full size (preferably JPG format), with full description - names, Corps, Stadium, Year... etc. to:

The *Guess Who* Mailbox

Thanx in advance!

All that said and out of the way..

Guess Who # 452 ?

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When the gentleman in this photo (number 452) showed up on the doorsteps of the midwest corps and offered his talents in the early 1950's, the one caption that the corps there were lacking in to jump up to the forefront was drumming. He was a renowned past national champion snare drummer who had marched with the Stratford, Conn. Yankees back east. He was also later affiliated with the Ludwick Drum Company as well. With the teaching of his style of drumming the midwest corps such as the Norward Park (Chicago) Imperials and the Chicago Cavaliers were then able to compete on an overall par with the big boys from back east. In 1956 at the VFW Nationals in Dallas, Texas the top three corps were St. Vincents Cadets in 1st. place, Norwood Park (Chicago) Imperials in 2nd place followed behind them by the Chicago Cavaliers in 3rd place. One of his drum students a miss Marian (Mickey) Vogt/Graeber, the lead snare drummer with the Norwood Park Imperials, was singled out that year at the VFW retreat ceremonies by the drum judges who said they had never before seen such a talented female drummer. She later after aging out in 1957 went on to teach the Norwood Park B corps drum section out of which a student of her own named Tony Di Marco went on to capture a couple of national snare drum championships. She has always been the first to acknowledge her accomplishments in drumming to what this gentleman in the photo had taught her. Although his last name might make you think his family had come from France I'll assure you that he wasn't a Franc o phone.

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When the gentleman in this photo (number 452) showed up on the doorsteps of the midwest corps and offered his talents in the early 1950's, the one caption that the corps there were lacking in to jump up to the forefront was drumming. He was a renowned past national champion snare drummer who had marched with the Stratford, Conn. Yankees back East.......

I believe this guy has something in common with our buddy Ed Violett?????? :satisfied:

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Although his last name might make you think his family had come from France I'll assure you that he wasn't a Franc o phone.

His last name is the same as my mother's maiden name. I'd print it here, but my credit card company would go berserk for compromising one of their security questions.

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would there be a famous picture of him on the back of an also famous old drum corps album... featuring Skokie Indians... in his (? NOT) Skokie uniform... and the big midwest joke was he borrowed the uniform for that picture and never wore that uniform on the field?

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would there be a famous picture of him on the back of an also famous old drum corps album... featuring Skokie Indians... in his (? NOT) Skokie uniform... and the big midwest joke was he borrowed the uniform for that picture and never wore that uniform on the field?

Actually, his pic in that uni was on the "front" cover of an album where he played the "26 Standard Rudiments" plus various solos ... I remember when he would travel back East and visit the PAL's rehearsal to see his mentor Earl Sturtze ...

:-)

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