audiodave Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 I remember when you wanted to scream, you'd plug in a Jet Tone T2A. It was like nickel with a hole in the center!!! instantly added 4-5 notes to your upper limit! Terrible tone in normal range though- really thin. Anyone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheezedogg 23 Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 not me.. i know what u mean. This guy in jazz band here does it. I'm currently lead trumpet. But i don't quite have the chops to last a whole set. so he plays lead. But he's always used his assymentric mouthpiece. I hate cheater mouthpeices. I go bigger mp, not smaller. Better for your tone that way, and more control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnZ Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 Unfortunately, yes. Used a Jet Tone back when I first got in to Drum Corps in the 70s. Fun, but it did little for my musical development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnric Posted April 25, 2003 Share Posted April 25, 2003 This used to kill me between D.C. and Symphonic band. I played Bass Trombone on a 1 1/2c in band and cheated up to a 6 1/2AL because I played lead Bari in DC. Even if i could have found a 2c with a small shank it would have been just too big for what I was playing in D.C. At least i left the 11 and 12 alone!! :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelcityrabbit Posted April 26, 2003 Share Posted April 26, 2003 Come on, it's not cheating, I used Jet-Tones as a young lad also. ^0^ Heck, anything to go a little higher than the next guy, right? I b**bs had both the model with just the flat cup on the end of the shank and the MF style with a little bit of a "V". I still have a flugel horn MF jet-tone mouthpiece but no flugel horn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strutta Posted April 26, 2003 Share Posted April 26, 2003 (edited) Cheater pieces may gain a tone or two but if you haven't got it, you haven't got it. We tried testing this theory with 6 horn players of varying accomplishment using a couple of cheater pieces (depending on player prefererence/embochure(sp?)-each player chose) and sure enough, those that could play high, played a little higher. Those that could not, squeaked out a note or two beyond their normal range but could not sustain or provide quality. It's like any other skill (IMHO), use tools that accentuate your ability, you'll benefit. BUT, if you have limited ability...not so much... Edited April 26, 2003 by strutta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Click Posted April 26, 2003 Share Posted April 26, 2003 I used a Schilke 13a4a for the last two years with my high school band, but im getting away from that. It only added a note maybe two on a good day. Plus it had a bad tone, and Iv found that just playing with the right mindset can get me as high as I need for any given piece. High notes for me are mostly mental and not physical. But in pep band ill get tired and pop it back in to hammer out some high notes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rage Posted April 27, 2003 Share Posted April 27, 2003 Sigh. If you get a "cheater" mouthpiece, and you instantly add half an octave to your range, you're doing something severely wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strutta Posted April 27, 2003 Share Posted April 27, 2003 w/Stp: I concur... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mafields627 Posted April 27, 2003 Share Posted April 27, 2003 There's no such thing as a cheater mouthpiece. You just have to pick what works best for you. Not everyone can play on a Schilke 14A4a, just as not everyone can play on a Bach 1C. Wynton uses a deep piece, Allen Vizzutti uses a shallow piece. Bud Herseth used a 1 1/2C, Bill Chase used a Schilke 6A4a. It all varies from person to person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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