will92 Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 can anyone tell me the fingerings for a normal G-bugle scale? I need to find out for 3 valved, 2valved and 1valved. Also, if you could tell me a bit more about the diffrence between a G-bugle and a Bb instrument??? I am trying to set up a hornline, but we have G's, which we wanted to go on, because we wanted to capture the traditional drum corps sound. At the minute i am in a corps that plays Bb instruments so know nothing about G's! Cheers, Will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle B Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 For 3 valve, it will be the exact same fingerings. The only difference is, that when you are playing a C on a bugle, it will come out a G on the piano, hence the "G". So a Bb scale will have the same Bb fingerings as you are used to, but it won't be a Bb concert pitch that you are playing. Hope this helps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
84BDsop Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 can anyone tell me the fingerings for a normal G-bugle scale? Same as on a Bb trumpet...the notes are even called the same...an A on a Bb is called an A on a G....tje only diff is the G bugle is a minor third lower than the Bb I need to find out for 3 valved, 2valved and 1valved. 2 and 3 valve are identical (except the 2 valve can't play those 4 notes that require a 3rd valve in and below the staff)...dunno about a one valve....a valve/rotor I cold tell you. Also, if you could tell me a bit more about the diffrence between a G-bugle and a Bb instrument??? Already hit on...except for the 1st valve slide. G horns were inherently out of tune on certain notes...especially the top line D. Watch any 80s vid and you'll find players pushing the slide in to tune up that D. 3 valvers like Kanstul can tune any note in the same way. I am trying to set up a hornline, but we have G's, which we wanted to go on, because we wanted to capture the traditional drum corps sound. At the minute i am in a corps that plays Bb instruments so know nothing about G's! Cheers, Will. Old schoolers will thank you for it! keep us advised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnZ Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Dynasty G Bugle Fingering Chart what everyone else said, plus here is a good reference to have - get it before it disappears! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piper Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 (edited) Also, if you go to Kanstuls website and read the specs I think that their G's have a slightly larger bore than the Bb's. Supposedly that translates into more power - or so the theory goes.......ooops - check that.......the bore and bell size are pretty much the same. Edited September 14, 2009 by Piper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF-LowBari Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Dynasty G Bugle Fingering Chartwhat everyone else said, plus here is a good reference to have - get it before it disappears! John beat me to it... It's the chart I've used since I came back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melligene Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Do you play a valved brass horn ...? Nothing different in fingering. (assuming treble cleff) Do you have an ear...one or two...? Doesen't matter. Don't let anyone complicate things for you. Pitch may sound different...but that's it. You're good to GO !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBbabe Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 The valve/ rotor fingerings are essentially the same as the two valve. I.e., the b, e-flat,and f sharp are played with the rotor and an A would be played with the valve and rotor. The one valve scale is played as follows: C-open D- valve(some called it closed) E-open F- valve G-open A-valve B-valve C- open So you would have open, closed, open, closed, open, closed, closed, open. The flats would be played by pulling the tuning slide out (g-flat = open with slide pulled) with the exception of the b-flat which is played open. As you got to the top C and beyond, all notes could be played open or closed. Those notes are played by lipping it up as there is at lot of room for play in that register. The notes that can be played on these bugles are pedal G (valve),low (pedal) C, D, G, B-flat, B, and C and above using the fingerings above. I am using the present tense on this as I have a '1935 C.G. Conn one-valve (with a screw slot) that I am in the process of restoring. It plays well, it just has dings, etc. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will92 Posted September 14, 2009 Author Share Posted September 14, 2009 Also, does anyone know where i can get any exercises/warm-ups/technique etc for the bugles? Thanks for all replies as well it has really helped! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBbabe Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 The exercises in most brass instruction books will work although I would add additional flexability exercises to your program. As for warm-ups, most are written by the corps music arranger, although you may find some arrangers who are willing to share theirs or make suggestions about how to write one for your group. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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