Rimba47 Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 (edited) Now if you played CD's and didn't tell people who it was I don't think they would know. I'm sure if you took the uni's off the guards back in the day you could tell the guards apart, Most of them had very distinct styles. **Disclaimer** The following isn't directed at you blackstar or even directly related to what you wrote. Its just your post got me thinking and after writing it I didn't want to delete it. Dinosaurs are SO attached to their past history with drum corps it literally makes me feel sorry for them! Even if you they don’t believe it they are poisoning their own perception of modern drum corps by constantly reminiscing about the past. Maybe the fact that you can’t tell the difference between the styles of modern drum corps is because you haven’t taken the time to really hear and appreciate the new styles that have been developed. They aren’t the same as they were 30 years ago and maybe for some people (not specifically you blackstar), they therefore think that they are "non-existent"”. But I can assure you that they are still there (just ask anyone who has gotten over their golden years in drum corps) and that they are just as distinct as they ever were. The fact that dinos keep constantly returning to their golden years of drum corps means that they aren't present for the modern years of drum corps. They are missing out on all the developments and ideas that have occurred since 1970’s not only on style but in everything else! A dino says, "I remember when the songs were more memorable than they are now...… I remember when they were louder than they are now...… I remember getting really excited for drum corps shows...… I remember when...… it was better when..." …” All of these lines distance yourself from the modern activity and you begin to live in world where both your present and past are not what they actually are. The past is idealized more than it should be and the present is ridiculed more than it should be. Dinos! Get out of your golden years stupor and open your eyes! The view ahead of you is brighter and more amazing than you can even imagine if you'd just stop looking over your shoulder with your rose colored glasses! At the smiulcast with a room full of band kids there wasn't much reaction overall. Very few corps got that "throwing babies" applause. I blame lack of available babies. Edited March 10, 2010 by Rimba47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjeffeory Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 But then, by that same token, all the units look exactly the same, to an outsider, a group of horn players, drummers, and colorguard, marching to music.....Its not so much technique that needs to be varied, its programming and color that sets colorguards apart....back in the day you could easily see who were the Scouts, Lancers, North star, Guardsmen, Blue Devils etc...by their style, not their technique(except for 2-7) BUt corps had identity and styles they weretru to..now each corps pretty much is programmed, or designed the same way with the same impact points, presentation, and impact.G G, and that gets a little old after a while. I want each guard to be something unique and special. Yes, we're all little snowflakes, but it would nice NOT to be SO homogenized! I think the guards today are mostly similar, but there are a couple surprises each year. It's great to see Crown, Cavies, GMen, etc lead the way on that front. It seems like there used to be a lot more surprises. I dunno, maybe it's not as bad as I'm thinking it is right now and I don't want to be too melodramatic , but there are 10+ each year that are pretty interchangeable. The rest of the guards in WC are unique. It would be nice to see some more unison work these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mello Dude Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 **Disclaimer** The following isn't directed at you blackstar or even directly related to what you wrote. Its just your post got me thinking and after writing it I didn't want to delete it.Dinosaurs are SO attached to their past history with drum corps it literally makes me feel sorry for them! Even if you they don’t believe it they are poisoning their own perception of modern drum corps by constantly reminiscing about the past. Maybe the fact that you can’t tell the difference between the styles of modern drum corps is because you haven’t taken the time to really hear and appreciate the new styles that have been developed. They aren’t the same as they were 30 years ago and maybe for some people (not specifically you blackstar), they therefore think that they are "non-existent"”. But I can assure you that they are still there (just ask anyone who has gotten over their golden years in drum corps) and that they are just as distinct as they ever were. The fact that dinos keep constantly returning to their golden years of drum corps means that they aren't present for the modern years of drum corps. They are missing out on all the developments and ideas that have occurred since 1970’s not only on style but in everything else! A dino says, "I remember when the songs were more memorable than they are now...… I remember when they were louder than they are now...… I remember getting really excited for drum corps shows...… I remember when...… it was better when..." …” All of these lines distance yourself from the modern activity and you begin to live in world where both your present and past are not what they actually are. The past is idealized more than it should be and the present is ridiculed more than it should be. Dinos! Get out of your golden years stupor and open your eyes! The view ahead of you is brighter and more amazing than you can even imagine if you'd just stop looking over your shoulder with your rose colored glasses! I blame lack of available babies. I think my sig applies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjeffeory Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Someone mentioned that "all guards are the same" and someone else went one step farther wth "then all corps are the same". "back int he day" I could tell the difference between Phantom, Madison, Blue Devils, Vanguard, Cavaliers just by what they played and how they sounded. Now if you played CD's and didn't tell people who it was I don't think they would know. I'm sure if you took the uni's off the guards back in the day you could tell the guards apart, Most of them had very distinct styles. At the smiulcast with a room full of band kids there wasn't much reaction overall. Very few corps got that "throwing babies" applause. Something I agree with. Today, homogenization is the word. Everyone is pretty much the same. It's like this in America. It's becoming more and more like this through out the world. It's rather sad sometimes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 **Disclaimer** The following isn't directed at you blackstar or even directly related to what you wrote. Its just your post got me thinking and after writing it I didn't want to delete it.Dinosaurs are SO attached to their past history with drum corps it literally makes me feel sorry for them! Even if you they don’t believe it they are poisoning their own perception of modern drum corps by constantly reminiscing about the past. Maybe the fact that you can’t tell the difference between the styles of modern drum corps is because you haven’t taken the time to really hear and appreciate the new styles that have been developed. They aren’t the same as they were 30 years ago and maybe for some people (not specifically you blackstar), they therefore think that they are "non-existent"”. But I can assure you that they are still there (just ask anyone who has gotten over their golden years in drum corps) and that they are just as distinct as they ever were. The fact that dinos keep constantly returning to their golden years of drum corps means that they aren't present for the modern years of drum corps. They are missing out on all the developments and ideas that have occurred since 1970’s not only on style but in everything else! A dino says, "I remember when the songs were more memorable than they are now...… I remember when they were louder than they are now...… I remember getting really excited for drum corps shows...… I remember when...… it was better when..." …” All of these lines distance yourself from the modern activity and you begin to live in world where both your present and past are not what they actually are. The past is idealized more than it should be and the present is ridiculed more than it should be. Dinos! Get out of your golden years stupor and open your eyes! The view ahead of you is brighter and more amazing than you can even imagine if you'd just stop looking over your shoulder with your rose colored glasses! I'm hardly a dinosaur. But your inability to see why someone might have a differing opinion from you reflects moreso on you than on them. They can turn around and point the same comments right back at you--you are so blinded by what is going on now that you lack understanding for why they might feel that the changes over the last (insert time period) have been negative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Something I agree with. Today, homogenization is the word. Everyone is pretty much the same. It's like this in America. It's becoming more and more like this through out the world. It's rather sad sometimes... it's also a discussion in several places about the indoor activity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMichael1230 Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 So in your words, you are assimilating gay with feminimitee? So all gay people act in a feminine way? What is it you are trying to say with your accusation of someone elses observation? What ??? Not even on the same page, and Ilearned the difference by fifth grade....did you ?? G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMichael1230 Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Something I agree with. Today, homogenization is the word. Everyone is pretty much the same. It's like this in America. It's becoming more and more like this through out the world. It's rather sad sometimes... agreed G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjeffeory Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 (edited) **Disclaimer** The following isn't directed at you blackstar or even directly related to what you wrote. Its just your post got me thinking and after writing it I didn't want to delete it.Dinosaurs are SO attached to their past history with drum corps it literally makes me feel sorry for them! Even if you they don’t believe it they are poisoning their own perception of modern drum corps by constantly reminiscing about the past. Maybe the fact that you can’t tell the difference between the styles of modern drum corps is because you haven’t taken the time to really hear and appreciate the new styles that have been developed. They aren’t the same as they were 30 years ago and maybe for some people (not specifically you blackstar), they therefore think that they are "non-existent"”. But I can assure you that they are still there (just ask anyone who has gotten over their golden years in drum corps) and that they are just as distinct as they ever were. The fact that dinos keep constantly returning to their golden years of drum corps means that they aren't present for the modern years of drum corps. They are missing out on all the developments and ideas that have occurred since 1970’s not only on style but in everything else! A dino says, "I remember when the songs were more memorable than they are now...… I remember when they were louder than they are now...… I remember getting really excited for drum corps shows...… I remember when...… it was better when..." …” All of these lines distance yourself from the modern activity and you begin to live in world where both your present and past are not what they actually are. The past is idealized more than it should be and the present is ridiculed more than it should be. Dinos! Get out of your golden years stupor and open your eyes! The view ahead of you is brighter and more amazing than you can even imagine if you'd just stop looking over your shoulder with your rose colored glasses! I blame lack of available babies. Well, I'm considerably younger than what you've described as a dinosaur above. I don't remember anything from the '70s live. I do attend some shows today. I've gotta say that the styles are NOT as distinct as they once were. It's very homogenized today in comparison. Now, I can musically tell Cavies from Blue Devils, or Crown from Cadets. It would be more difficult to tell Crown from Blue Stars or Blue Devils from Bluecoats. It would be pretty difficult to hear the Colts, Glassmen, or The Academy and be able to tell who they were if they were in plain clothes. My point is not to rag on anyone today, it's just to say that the differences are more subtle. There aren't as many styles. The instrumentation from corps to corps is mostly the same, the guards are generally similar. There are generally 3 or 4 marching styles in vogue ( Cavies, Blue Knight, Blue Devils, Cadets). It's pretty homogenized. It didn't used to be this way, but it HAS happened. Edited March 10, 2010 by jjeffeory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abbevillekid26 Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Can you name shows that would require research on the part of an attendee to "get it"? I know I can. Whenever I bring new people to a DCI show, they don't really get any of it from the drill not showing recognizable pictures 100% of the time to music selections they've never heard at a college marching band show. But for people who have attended at least 1 show and enjoyed it enough to keep going, I can't think of a single show where they're so stupid (or the show design is so abstract) they can't "get it." I think I would've "gotten" phantom 09 more if I hadn't seen The Red Violin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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