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If history is any indication, yes... that's generally how it ends up shaking down.

But hey. We have months to read up on this dadaism, so if August rolls around and we STILL don't get it, we have no one to blame but ourselves.

or we have no desire to care, and hope the show entertains us. I dont go to a drum corps show to be educated on small cults and their beliefs

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or we have no desire to care, and hope the show entertains us. I dont go to a drum corps show to be educated on small cults and their beliefs

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The dinosaur says... "RAAWWWWWWWRRRR" :tongue:

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Hey G, I thought you were going to take the kids for pizza!!

I can just hear them..."Dad, leave that stupid Plan guy alone, get your ### up from the computer, we're hungry!!

But before you dart off to Uno's...Although intuition is generally acquired by laps in the gene pool, it can be suppressed. Not a problem at BD.

Somehow I'm betting either Garfield would go for Joseppis or Donatos over Uno's....

Glad to see you're in Spring training for the coming season Plan... devil.gif

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I know I am a bit late looking at the reps, but that is what finals week is like at College.

Tevot, I just noticed that selection. I am really interested in seeing how they use that.

Will it be like last year, or will be more of a "City of Glass" Type year. Should be fun no matter what, (Especially if their brass retention is high

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DaDa Manifesto

Zurich, July 14, 1916

Dada is a new tendency in art. One can tell this from the fact that until now nobody knew anything about it, and tomorrow everyone in Zurich will be talking about it. Dada comes from the dictionary. It is terribly simple. In French it means "hobby horse". In German it means "good-bye", "Get off my back", "Be seeing you sometime". In Romanian: "Yes, indeed, you are right, that's it. But of course, yes, definitely, right". And so forth.An International word. Just a word, and the word a movement. Very easy to understand. Quite terribly simple. To make of it an artistic tendency must mean that one is anticipating complications. Dada psychology, dada Germany ### indigestion and fog paroxysm, dada literature, dada bourgeoisie, and yourselves, honoured poets, who are always writing with words but never writing the word itself, who are always writing around the actual point. Dada world war without end, dada revolution without beginning, dada, you friends and also-poets, esteemed sirs, manufacturers, and evangelists. Dada Tzara, dada Huelsenbeck, dada m'dada, dada m'dada dada mhm, dada dera dada, dada Hue, dada Tza.

How does one achieve eternal bliss? By saying dada. How does one become famous? By saying dada. With a noble gesture and delicate propriety. Till one goes crazy. Till one loses consciousness. How can one get rid of everything that smacks of journalism, worms, everything nice and right, blinkered, moralistic, europeanised, enervated? By saying dada. Dada is the world soul, dada is the pawnshop. Dada is the world's best lily-milk soap. Dada Mr Rubiner, dada Mr Korrodi. Dada Mr Anastasius Lilienstein. In plain language: the hospitality of the Swiss is something to be profoundly appreciated. And in questions of aesthetics the key is quality.

I shall be reading poems that are meant to dispense with conventional language, no less, and to have done with it. Dada Johann Fuchsgang Goethe. Dada Stendhal. Dada Dalai Lama, Buddha, Bible, and Nietzsche. Dada m'dada. Dada mhm dada da. It's a question of connections, and of loosening them up a bit to start with. I don't want words that other people have invented. All the words are other people's inventions. I want my own stuff, my own rhythm, and vowels and consonants too, matching the rhythm and all my own. If this pulsation is seven yards long, I want words for it that are seven yards long. Mr Schulz's words are only two and a half centimetres long.

It will serve to show how articulated language comes into being. I let the vowels fool around. I let the vowels quite simply occur, as a cat meows . . . Words emerge, shoulders of words, legs, arms, hands of words. Au, oi, uh. One shouldn't let too many words out. A line of poetry is a chance to get rid of all the filth that clings to this accursed language, as if put there by stockbrokers' hands, hands worn smooth by coins. I want the word where it ends and begins. Dada is the heart of words.

Each thing has its word, but the word has become a thing by itself. Why shouldn't I find it? Why can't a tree be called Pluplusch, and Pluplubasch when it has been raining? The word, the word, the word outside your domain, your stuffiness, this laughable impotence, your stupendous smugness, outside all the parrotry of your self-evident limitedness. The word, gentlemen, is a public concern of the first importance.

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Are we talking "P-iss Christ" here?

Well... completely different, as the artist had clear symbolism and a clear intent. It set out with the aim of evoking strong feelings.

DaDa is more the exact opposite, and instead of P*ss Christ... it is Fountain.

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While with P*ss Christ, the artist was attempting to shock and desensitize to the point of making the controversial mundane, DaDa often made (likely unintentionally... wasn't all that deep or thought out) the mundane controversial.

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Somehow I'm betting either Garfield would go for Joseppis or Donatos over Uno's....

Glad to see you're in Spring training for the coming season Plan... devil.gif

Yep.....gotta get tuned up for playing "cat toys" with Jeff and the gang. As the romans said "Gird your loins". Time to order extree cases of Dino Chow.

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or we have no desire to care, and hope the show entertains us. I dont go to a drum corps show to be educated on small cults and their beliefs

Although there have been several very interesting posts concerning the history of the dada movement, and a few attempts to make some kind of connection to BD's design/motivation......I, for one, couldn't care less about educating anyone on it or any connection, only to say that dada flew in the face of convention for myriad reasons, none of which matter to BD's show . My only thought had to do with my delight in their getting out of the box again.....someone has to! In fact, dada is no more relevant to BDs show than the Cadets theme is to theirs.....doesn't seem to be many posts exploring that or George's motivation....only "will it work?"

Utimately the Cadets show will be (I expect) a trek through our emotional family connections to the wonderful music, accompanied by amazing drill......whille BD will revel in the unexpected and perhaps a bit of shock. Nothing deeper than that......and no pop quiz at the end.

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DaDa Manifesto

Zurich, July 14, 1916

Dada is a new tendency in art. One can tell this from the fact that until now nobody knew anything about it, and tomorrow everyone in Zurich will be talking about it. Dada comes from the dictionary. It is terribly simple. In French it means "hobby horse". In German it means "good-bye", "Get off my back", "Be seeing you sometime". In Romanian: "Yes, indeed, you are right, that's it. But of course, yes, definitely, right". And so forth.An International word. Just a word, and the word a movement. Very easy to understand. Quite terribly simple. To make of it an artistic tendency must mean that one is anticipating complications. Dada psychology, dada Germany ### indigestion and fog paroxysm, dada literature, dada bourgeoisie, and yourselves, honoured poets, who are always writing with words but never writing the word itself, who are always writing around the actual point. Dada world war without end, dada revolution without beginning, dada, you friends and also-poets, esteemed sirs, manufacturers, and evangelists. Dada Tzara, dada Huelsenbeck, dada m'dada, dada m'dada dada mhm, dada dera dada, dada Hue, dada Tza.

How does one achieve eternal bliss? By saying dada. How does one become famous? By saying dada. With a noble gesture and delicate propriety. Till one goes crazy. Till one loses consciousness. How can one get rid of everything that smacks of journalism, worms, everything nice and right, blinkered, moralistic, europeanised, enervated? By saying dada. Dada is the world soul, dada is the pawnshop. Dada is the world's best lily-milk soap. Dada Mr Rubiner, dada Mr Korrodi. Dada Mr Anastasius Lilienstein. In plain language: the hospitality of the Swiss is something to be profoundly appreciated. And in questions of aesthetics the key is quality.

I shall be reading poems that are meant to dispense with conventional language, no less, and to have done with it. Dada Johann Fuchsgang Goethe. Dada Stendhal. Dada Dalai Lama, Buddha, Bible, and Nietzsche. Dada m'dada. Dada mhm dada da. It's a question of connections, and of loosening them up a bit to start with. I don't want words that other people have invented. All the words are other people's inventions. I want my own stuff, my own rhythm, and vowels and consonants too, matching the rhythm and all my own. If this pulsation is seven yards long, I want words for it that are seven yards long. Mr Schulz's words are only two and a half centimetres long.

It will serve to show how articulated language comes into being. I let the vowels fool around. I let the vowels quite simply occur, as a cat meows . . . Words emerge, shoulders of words, legs, arms, hands of words. Au, oi, uh. One shouldn't let too many words out. A line of poetry is a chance to get rid of all the filth that clings to this accursed language, as if put there by stockbrokers' hands, hands worn smooth by coins. I want the word where it ends and begins. Dada is the heart of words.

Each thing has its word, but the word has become a thing by itself. Why shouldn't I find it? Why can't a tree be called Pluplusch, and Pluplubasch when it has been raining? The word, the word, the word outside your domain, your stuffiness, this laughable impotence, your stupendous smugness, outside all the parrotry of your self-evident limitedness. The word, gentlemen, is a public concern of the first importance.

Or, the short version: we are self absorbed, mostly rich, navel gazers that are in our 20's that like to hang out in posh and toney Zurich, Switzerland and our favorite word is " Wah "

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Or, the short version: we are self absorbed, mostly rich, navel gazers that are in our 20's that like to hang out in posh and toney Zurich, Switzerland and our favorite word is " Wah "

" ......... your stuffiness, this laughable impotence, your stupendous smugness, outside all the parrotry of your self-evident limitedness." :-)

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