soccerguy315 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 no problem blueparent! you can't accurately compare scores from one competition to another (like, a 67 in CA on the same night as a 67 in VA don't mean the corps will be even when they meet head to head). The only way to see how the corps really stack up is to have them all in the same show, so some people have developed various methods to create an accurate picture, with varying degrees of success (lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azul Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 no problem blueparent! you can't accurately compare scores from one competition to another (like, a 67 in CA on the same night as a 67 in VA don't mean the corps will be even when they meet head to head). The only way to see how the corps really stack up is to have them all in the same show, so some people have developed various methods to create an accurate picture, with varying degrees of success (lol) You can almost do it but not cross country. For example, I knew Phantom was going to be close to Devs when they had that 4 point spread over SCV and Devs only had a 3 point spread. I have a feeling it's going to be close between those two plus Cadets, Bluecoats and Crown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flammaster Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 i think Phantom can win it all if they really want to. Frankly I thought they were much closer to BD at Stanford but BD the brass is usually the deal breaker. every other caption though I thought they did win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecoats88 Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 The reason I started this system back in 1990 was because if you just look at a corps latest score there are two major issues. 1. You are comparing scores from different shows, different locations, and different dates. 2. If a corps doesn't perform for a couple days and all of their competition's scores go up then they would appear to be falling in the standings. This system maintains a corps relative placement regardless of if they've had a show in a couple days or not. The assumption is that the spreads between them and the corps they have competed against will not change that dramatically from day to day and by using a calculation which takes into account all of the spreads against all of the corps each corps has competed against then these corps can be ranked where they are mostly to be when they have a show after a couple days of not competing. It is all in good fun, but I have found that this system holds fairly accurate throughout the season as opposed to just looking at latest scores. For some back history, I started this at a time when Bluecoats were consistently fighting for those last few spots in finals, and there were realistically 5-6 corps who could be anywhere from 10-15. This system was a way for me to see how they were stacking up against their competition and I've just kept doing it every year. A few years ago I decided to share the results with the DCP community. So enjoy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecoats88 Posted June 26, 2012 Author Share Posted June 26, 2012 updated for 6/25 show results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloudFuel Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 (edited) Thank you! It is GREATLY appreciated! :) The reason I started this system back in 1990 was because if you just look at a corps latest score there are two major issues. 1. You are comparing scores from different shows, different locations, and different dates. 2. If a corps doesn't perform for a couple days and all of their competition's scores go up then they would appear to be falling in the standings. This system maintains a corps relative placement regardless of if they've had a show in a couple days or not. The assumption is that the spreads between them and the corps they have competed against will not change that dramatically from day to day and by using a calculation which takes into account all of the spreads against all of the corps each corps has competed against then these corps can be ranked where they are mostly to be when they have a show after a couple days of not competing. It is all in good fun, but I have found that this system holds fairly accurate throughout the season as opposed to just looking at latest scores. For some back history, I started this at a time when Bluecoats were consistently fighting for those last few spots in finals, and there were realistically 5-6 corps who could be anywhere from 10-15. This system was a way for me to see how they were stacking up against their competition and I've just kept doing it every year. A few years ago I decided to share the results with the DCP community. So enjoy Edited June 26, 2012 by CloudFuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirdcoast Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 I figure now is as good a time to start posting these. I will update them after each days shows. These are based on latest spreads between all corps competed against. Through 6/25 shows 01……75.55……Crown 02……75.07……Cadets 03……74.75……Blue Devils 04……73.50……Bluecoats 05……73.30……Phantom 06……71.80……Madison 07……71.03……Cavaliers 08……71.01……Santa Clara 09……69.30……Spirit 10……68.75……Boston 11……66.92……Blue Stars 12……65.58……Glassmen 13……65.24……Blue Knights 14……63.38……Troopers 15……63.32……Crossmen 16……61.20……Colts 17……58.83……Academy 18……58.30……Pacific Crest 19……55.56……Mandarins 20……54.54……Pioneer Still to Compete Teal Sound Cascades Jersey Surf This is cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecoats88 Posted June 27, 2012 Author Share Posted June 27, 2012 updated to reflect 6/26 scores Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emc2 Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 I figure now is as good a time to start posting these. I will update them after each days shows. These are based on latest spreads between all corps competed against. Through 6/26 shows 01……76.71……Crown 02……76.31……Cadets 03……75.76……Blue Devils 04……74.35……Phantom 05……74.08……Bluecoats 06……72.45……Cavaliers 07……72.31……Madison 08……71.99……Santa Clara 09……69.97……Boston 10……69.42……Spirit 11……68.53……Blue Stars 12……66.17……Blue Knights 13……65.82……Glassmen 14……64.43……Troopers 15……64.00……Crossmen 16……63.60……Colts 17……59.63……Academy 18……59.49……Pacific Crest 19……56.56……Mandarins 20……53.38……Pioneer Still to Compete Teal Sound Cascades Jersey Surf Boston show last night 70.700. wrong score posted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus67 Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Boston show last night 70.700. wrong score posted That's because this system doesn't look at just one score but takes all scores, plugs them into a model, and spits out a ranking based on the formula. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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