Popular Post phan771 Posted July 15, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2013 I gotta say how much I dislike the TOC shows. Yes, I am trying to be open minded and get out my comfort zone with the format of show I am used to after all of these years, but. . . I will not go to another one. I am lucky enough to have the means to go to shows that are not near me, so I can check out everyone before finals week. Here is my jaded take on things: The G8/7 are still trying to find a format that pulls in the most people so they can figure out how to make more money and leave DCI. And yes, DCI is aiding them because the backbone of DCI belongs to Dave Gibbs and George Hopkins and everyone just rolls over because of how highly we value winning/winners over everything. Michael Cesario and Dan Atcheson ask the wrong people about what is entertainment in this activity because they themselves have lost touch with what most ticket buyers want and certainly what would bring in more ticket buyers. Though I like most drum corps shows, my intelligent, musically trained, open-minded wife and our friends have stopped going to shows with me because though they appreciate the hard work of the members, they find most shows to be self-serving. John Phillips and Michael Cesario have either not tried or do not have enough control over the judges or top corps' admin teams to allow many different types of shows, styles, etc. to be competitive. Though you can say there are different corps identities, take the uniform off and many are doing the same types of things because the judges have deemed those things, despite their true content, as being most rewardable. What is entertaining and accessible to most viewers is still less rewarded as more allusive shows. . . translated into not intelligently designed enough to be competitive. So , despite what extra tunes, or ensembles, etc. DCI asks the corps to prepare, the competitive drive to win will trump all else and these "extra" TOC offerings will forever be a let down. Anyone else remember when "America-O'Canada" sounded great by the mass hornlines? Different time with a different overall focus. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post seen-it-all Posted July 15, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2013 Anyone else remember when "America-O'Canada" sounded great by the mass hornlines? Nope. It never sounded great. It was usually a mess. A bunch of hornlines out of tune with each other, barely playing two notes together in time, with dummy lead trumpet players purposefully hanging releases. 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plan9 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Move along folks.........................there is literally nothing to see here! 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slingerland Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 The only 'format' in these shows is the specific group of corps on display. If someone looks at this collection of shows and can't find at least 4 or 5 that work for them, then perhaps they are, to borrow Johnson's phrase regarding those who say they're tired of London, "tired of life." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.l. Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Move along folks.........................there is literally nothing to see here! Figuratively. If there's words on the page, and a banner at the top, with an ad, there has to be something to see here! Anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garfield Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Oh come on, Plan. When have you ever backed away from an opportunity to honk for BD? :tongue:/> 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plan9 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Oh come on, Plan. When have you ever backed away from an opportunity to honk for BD? /> There I was G....swimming along at about 30ft below the surface on DCP, the water was clear and blue (of course), and I could see a long way. Suddenly, what looked like a fish darted in front of me.....I wanted it......it wanted it bad! I circled it....is it real? Or is it just bait... with some troller on the other end waiting to reel me in? What should I do? My instinct says......"strike!" But alas, I swam close and found it was only porpoise poop. :w00t:/> #### Flipper! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BozzlyB Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Nope. It never sounded great. It was usually a mess. A bunch of hornlines out of tune with each other, barely playing two notes together in time, with dummy lead trumpet players purposefully hanging releases. To your typical brass snob, I'm sure it was hard to listen to, but the majority of ticket holding fans loved it based on the sheer volume if nothing else. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seen-it-all Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 To your typical brass snob, I'm sure it was hard to listen to, but the majority of ticket holding fans loved it based on the sheer volume if nothing else. Oh I don't deny that the fans loved it. That much was obvious. He was asking if anyone remembered when it sounded good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingasjones Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I wish we could all just enjoy the activity for what it is. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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