danielray Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 Is food allowed on the competition field? Well, if you asked Cesario..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaRTCm-oiqY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skevinp Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Well, if you asked Cesario..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaRTCm-oiqY I'm not gonna watch that cause I want to be able to sleep tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garfield Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 WTF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRASSO Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 (edited) I actually think these Simon & Garfunkel lyrics make even more sense in the context of this debate. You started out pretty good talking about Drum Corps not being stuck in a time warp from 100 years ago.... especially musically. You wanted, apparently, something modern. I'm actually with you on this. But then you go and bring up something from the 60's.... Simon & Garfunkel. Simon & Garfunkel ? Are you serious ? How do you want the young, and the outsiders to perceive modern day DCI as " modern " with something as SOOO yesterday as is Simon & Garfunkel ? Don't get me wrong, I like Paul Simon and Art Garfunkel, and when they were together as a duo in the 60's, they were terrific together, and made great music. But frwnkly, this is not modern music at all anymore. This is 2013, not the 60's. Not 1760. Not 1860. Not 1960. Its 2013. You started your thread out ok, and wanted to bring us into the 21st century with our Corps music selections. But then on the modern highway drive to music modernity, you curiously took the early exit ramp off the highway to I-60. And you're apparently stuck in the 60's now there. If you REALLY want DCI Corps to be modern, you'd be requesting that they play something " modern "... and something from the 1960's is surely not " modern ", especially to the young. Edited August 26, 2013 by BRASSO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielray Posted August 26, 2013 Author Share Posted August 26, 2013 You started out pretty good talking about Drum Corps not being stuck in a time warp from 100 years ago.... especially musically. You wanted, apparently, something modern. I'm actually with you on this. But then you go and bring up something from the 60's, and Simon & Garfunkel. Simon & Garfunkel ? Are you serious ? How do you want the young, and the outsiders to perceive modern day DCI with something as SOOO yesterday as is Simon & Garfunkel ? Don't get me wrong, I like Paul Simon and Art Garfunkel, and when they were together as a duo in the 60's, they were terrific together, and made great music But this is not modern at all anymore. This is 2013, not the 60's. Not 1760. Not 1860. Not 1960. Its 2013. You started your thread out ok, and wanted to bring us into the 21st century with our Corps music selections. But then on the modern highway drive to music modernity, you curiously took the early exit ramp off the highway to I-60. And you're apparently stuck in the 60's now there. Except for TWO corps did Simon & Garfunkel this very year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRASSO Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 (edited) Except for TWO corps did Simon & Garfunkel this very year. I know. But whats your point ? Are you calling this Pop ( or Folk, if one prefers ) music from Simon & Garfunkel from the 60's, " modern" ? Edited August 26, 2013 by BRASSO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielray Posted August 26, 2013 Author Share Posted August 26, 2013 I know. But whats your point ? Are you calling this Pop ( or Folk, if one prefers ) music from Simon & Garfunkel from the 60's, " modern" ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRASSO Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 (edited) I have no idea what your point is with the pic... I really don't. If you think Simon & Garfunkel is hip and "modern", please don't tell this to people under 40, ok ? They'll chuckle with that caricature. That said, I enjoy the 60's music... but I refrain from telling anyone that I think its " modern ", and want to use this as an example of hip and modern music for the consideration for use in the near term Drum Corps. There is LOTS of music that can be considered hip and modern. Simon & Garfunkel music however, ain't it. Edited August 26, 2013 by BRASSO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayfallon Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 I have no idea what your point is with the pic... I really don't. If you think Simon & Garfunkel is hip and "modern", please don't tell this to people under 40, ok ? They'll chuckle with that caricature. That said, I enjoy the 60's music... but I refrain from telling anyone that I think its " modern ", and want to use this as an example of hip and modern music for the consideration for use in the near term Drum Corps. There is LOTS of music that can be considered hip and modern. Simon & Garfunkel music however, ain't it. Modern is relative... Went to the MOMA in NYC 2 weeks ago. Simon and Garfunkel would be among the most recent art featured... if they had anything exhibited there... Plus everything since Zeppelin is crap anyway... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.E. Brigand Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 (edited) BTW - it is completely inevitable that a corps will come out there soon without any tubas... a completely fluid concept of percussion (mix of stationary and moving... different points in the show)... and will absolutely kill it. Right now the rigid format for instrumentation is not really messed with because of the system in place where the manufacturers support top corps with gear and the staff of those corps endorse the manufacturers to create clinics, workshops, write for bands, etc. which perpetuates this sort of inertia in terms of instrumentation. This fixed concept of instrumentation is a financial barrier, particularly for Open Class corps. As a result, I think there is much greater opportunity for OC corps to truly innovate in terms of the structure of the medium. People are too focused on this sort of competitive inertia in terms of structure and format of shows... once someone breaks through that... we could see some really fascinating stuff. I think OC actually has more opportunity to innovate here and will be the ones to break through this, because they are less plugged into the Matrix, so to speak. This would seem to be your substantive contribution to the thread so far. Bruckner8 recently made the same prediction as regards tubas (and he's made it before). Since you're using his term ("competitive inertia"), I think it's germane to note what he didn't mention in that discussion, that he's said several times previously: he only watches drum corps on the field if he doesn't have to pay for it, as he prefers to listen to the brass in the lot. Which brings us back to Michael Boo's point: there is some threshold beyond which you would innovate drum corps into something that's not drum corps. Maybe someone will do you one better, and perform without trumpets. Would it still be drum corps? Would it still be something that even the most supposedly forward-thinking drum corps futurists will bother to watch? Edited August 26, 2013 by N.E. Brigand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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