"I'm not a French Fry... I'm Foie Gras"

[charlie1223]

The Blue Devils facebook posted this video of Lady Gaga discussing her Art and Fame and what it means to her. However, the interesting thing here is that it was posted by the Blue Devils so immediately I'm thinking about the drum corps context. So, throughout the video I was finding myself interpret Lady Gaga's responses as if they were the Blue Devil's. With the ideas of "Art and Design" being discussed on DCP I thought this was interesting commentary.

Here's the video:

Here are some quotes from Lady Gaga from the video:

"Truthfully, everyone has a right to an opinion, but this incessant negative force being charged at every celebrity, every artist, it's sad because there is an element of respect that has been lost to the performer and people aren't grateful anymore. It used to be a very unique and blessed experience to experience theater and to go see it... Only the most highest class people in Shakespearean times would be let into the theater and everyone else would have to watch it in the square. Nobody feels that way anymore. It's so easily accessible on the internet that it's treated like McDonalds. Treated like trash. I'm not a French Fry, I'm Froie Gras and some people don't like it but that's just who I am."

"...But I am loved. I'm loved by my fans and we share the same interests and we share the same things whether I am loved by my fans or someone else's fans it doesn't matter to me."

"...I'm so grateful for what I do I don't ever even think about who doesn't like it, who cares. If you don't like it I'm excited, I'm sure you like somebody else. You know, its music. I don't need to rule the world. I don't want to rule the world. I want to be a part of the world and I want to affect the world in whatever beautiful and happy way that I can. I want to be able to make people smile. I live to make people happy."

Blue Devils, you are certainly Froie Gras. But, even for a progressive drum corps fan like myself... it's hard to look past your designs on occasion. But I'll be ###### if you ever succumb even to my or anyone else's "ABBD" mentality or "BD hate". And I really think this context will help me and others embrace your passion and identity and how your intentions are to invigorate, challenge and celebrate the activity and invite those that choose to watch and listen to experience something more than simply what they see and hear. It's a testament to the versatility and love of the activity that such a venue as Drum Corps International can be a place for "Capital-A" "Art". As much as I poke fun and dismiss I'd really hate it if you were anything other than what you wanted to be. I guess I didn't realize how lucky our activity is to have a personality like yours that pushes everyone's buttons. :music:/>/>/>/>/>/>/>

Edited August 28, 2013 by charlie1223

[flammaster]

I swear this better not happen!

Don't even think about playing some lame azz pop garbage! 2011 was bad enough!

I want to see a 1994 redux.

[charlie1223]

I swear this better not happen!

Don't even think about playing some lame azz pop garbage! 2011 was bad enough!

I want to see a 1994 redux.

I'm sure BD didn't post this as teaser for 2014... lol

[flammaster]

Oh they better not!!!!

Thanks for your post I appreciate what you had to say!

[skevinp]

I swear this better not happen!

Don't even think about playing some lame azz pop garbage! 2011 was bad enough!

I want to see a 1994 redux.

I liked 2011.

Then, I like French fries too.

[lindap]

I liked 2011. :tongue:/>

Then, I like French fries too.

tres bon lol

[N.E. Brigand]

Lady Gaga: "Only the most highest class people in Shakespearean times would be let into the theater and everyone else would have to watch it in the square."

What is she talking about?

(It was called "The Globe" not "The Cube".)

Edited August 28, 2013 by N.E. Brigand

[Jeff Ream]

well, both bore me......

[Stu]

Stefani Joanne Angelina Germanotta; a highly acclaimed pianist enrolled at the age of 17 in the NYU Tisch School of the Arts. As a musical artist during that time period she produced some of the most glorifying performances.

Lady Gaga; a highly acclaimed performer with chocolate painted nude breasts; twerking on stage along with many other vulgar sexual innuendos; and the current darling of the pop art movement.

Both Germanotta and Gaga were/are very successful; albeit as Lady Gaga she is way more financially successful and has way more fans.

Lady Gaga is quoted saying that everyone has a right to an opinion; so... This incessant worship of sexualized celebrity, with many artists now transporting the art lower and lower into the world of guttural debauchery, it's sad; because there is an element of respect that has been lost by the performer and people aren't ashamed of the debauchery they actually glorify it in the name of progressing the art form. Yes, it used to be a very unique and blessed experience to experience theater and to go see it... Now those in the gutter not only go into the theater they have transformed the theater into their own image; and instead of art raising the guttural into the world of high standards, the art has been yanked down into the pits of the guttural. Pornography, Sodomy, and the rest have found acceptance though pop art like Lady Gaga; It's now so easily accessible on the internet that it's falsely being viewed as high quality Froie Gras and not like the dark out of the way theater greasy slimy french fry it really is. So, if Lady Gaga is what some DCI corps wish to promote and emulate as the artistic standard to be met then count me out. I will enjoy watching the older videos of Stefani Joanne Angelina Germanotta along with the older videos of the Blue Devils, and you all can enjoy Lady Gaga with her nude twerking on the field with members of a drum corps.

[charlie1223]

Stefani Joanne Angelina Germanotta; a highly acclaimed pianist enrolled at the age of 17 in the NYU Tisch School of the Arts. As a musical artist during that time period she produced some of the most glorifying performances.

Lady Gaga; a highly acclaimed performer with chocolate painted nude breasts; twerking on stage along with many other vulgar sexual innuendos; and the current darling of the pop art movement.

Both Germanotta and Gaga were/are very successful; albeit as Lady Gaga she is way more financially successful and has way more fans.

Lady Gaga is quoted saying that everyone has a right to an opinion; so... This incessant worship of sexualized celebrity, with many artists now transporting the art lower and lower into the world of guttural debauchery, it's sad; because there is an element of respect that has been lost by the performer and people aren't ashamed of the debauchery they actually glorify it in the name of progressing the art form. Yes, it used to be a very unique and blessed experience to experience theater and to go see it... Now those in the gutter not only go into the theater they have transformed the theater into their own image; and instead of art raising the guttural into the world of high standards, the art has been yanked down into the pits of the guttural. Pornography, Sodomy, and the rest have found acceptance though pop art like Lady Gaga; It's now so easily accessible on the internet that it's falsely being viewed as high quality Froie Gras and not like the dark out of the way theater greasy slimy french fry it really is. So, if Lady Gaga is what some DCI corps wish to promote and emulate as the artistic standard to be met then count me out. I will enjoy watching the older videos of Stefani Joanne Angelina Germanotta along with the older videos of the Blue Devils, and you all can enjoy Lady Gaga with her nude twerking on the field with members of a drum corps.

It's clear that you've missed the message about artists and the expression of art in general since this was not in anyway a discussion about how Drum Corps should be more like Lady Gaga or that Lady Gaga's Art should be emulated or be seen as an artistic standard for a Drum Corps.

Though your commentary is pretty much what the entire interview is about. The judgement that is put on artists for what their art is instead of the inspiration and thoughts behind it. The confusion in your post for me occurs when you begin to associate the idea with Porn and Sodomy (???) and suggest that "It's now so easily accessible on the internet that it's falsely being viewed as high quality Froie Gras..." But the argument is that the more common it is the more trashy it is. That the spectacle is tarnished through the accessibility because it becomes so pervasive that the appreciation of "how' and "why" it is pales in comparison to the judgement of what it is. And your critique of "pornography, sodomy and the like" is evidence of "what" being judged before "why", "how". Of course, Art itself is subjective and its hard to take "popular" art seriously because it is so popular and on top of that not all popular art deserves to be treated seriously.

however, it is the same with a consistently winning corps who is popular with the judges. People have accused the blue devils as designing to the sheets, creating un-judgeable moments on purpose, not having demand in their show, taking the easy way to a championship, simply wanting to please the judges and only care about winning. Who would want to take their art seriously if it's always winning while flying in the face of the general DCI population? These spectacles, whether their exposure was through the decision of a few (DCI judges) or decision by the many (Gaga Fans), have garnered hardened oppositions because of it. The message is then that you can't let the context of others or the context of "the many" delude the artist or the intentions of the art in the first place.

Edited August 28, 2013 by charlie1223