frachel Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 There's these... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 (edited) Ask yourself the following questions concerning the activity of DCI. If the answers to these questions are determined as being ‘no’ then DCI could fall outside the definition of sport. On the other hand, if the answers are determined to be ‘yes’ then no matter what any of us on DCP perceive in our own belief structure, no matter what the outside world perceives, no matter what even a football coach may yell and scream like a spoiled brat about that perception, DCI would, by definition, be a sport: Is DCI an activity requiring skill or physical prowess? Is DCI competitive in nature? Is DCI an activity for self-gratification and entertainment of others? Is DCI an activity of recreation for those involved as either performers or spectators? Edited April 3, 2014 by Stu 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRASSO Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 (edited) Ask yourself the following questions concerning the activity of DCI. If the answers to these questions are determined as being ‘no’ then DCI could fall outside the definition of sport. On the other hand, if the answers are determined to be ‘yes’ then no matter what any of us on DCP perceive in our own belief structure, no matter what the outside world perceives, no matter what even a football coach may yell and scream like a spoiled brat about that perception, DCI would, by definition, be a sport: Is DCI an activity requiring skill or physical prowess? Is DCI competitive in nature? Is DCI an activity for self-gratification and entertainment of others? Is DCI an activity of recreation for those involved as either performers or spectators? If DCI does not consider itself a sport then why did they do the sports analogies on their broadcasts to the public themselves ? ( just one illustration of this here above ). Why did they put themselves on ESPN for telecasts ? Why did they bring into their broadcasts Bob Knight, Curt Gowdy, Steve Young, etc ? They perform on football fields and in sports stadiums all summer long, don't they ? ( not in concert halls ). DCI adopted the branding theme for themselves of " The Major Leagues of... ", didn't they ? Look, we can all agree that there are differences between DCI and sports, but lets be real on here,.. its also true the DCI has attempted at many different junctures over the years to make the analogy to who they are and what they do, to that of sports, athletics, athletes, etc themselves. By the way, it is a fact of life, that just about ALL amateur 17-22 year olders on college sports teams are heckled, booed, jeeered, they're yelled names of devilish participation with their Mothers in unsavory extracurricular pursuits, if you get my drift, and so forth...... are we ok if we bring in all that from the amateur college sports realm world as well for the DCI 17-22 year olders among us out on the DCI football field ? Gawd, lets hope not... nor that this happens at these DCI " Summer Games " in the future. Once DCI begins to compare its participants heartrate to athletes it can become quite easy for some sports team yahoo to begin to treat the DCI Marcher as any other amateur college athlete is treated. We can put this then in the category of ...: " be careful what you wish for " . This could become a slippery slope indeed where you don't get to bring in the good things, but keep out the bad things, when the comparison is attempted to be made that DCI'ers are like college athletes. Edited April 3, 2014 by BRASSO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HornTeacher Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Is figure skating an Art? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Is figure skating an Art? Yes; but it is also a business and a sport. An activity can be two or more things simultaneously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HornTeacher Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 The modern tendency toward pigeonholing activities into set-in-stone disciplines seems to me, at least, to be rather silly. I mean, I love a good discussion -- heck, a good ol' knock down, drag out fight, even -- as much as anyone. However, there comes a point where the reality that a square peg won't fit into a smaller round hole must be acknowledged (Ok...now we go back to the whole "Reality" discussion. Crap. Thought we were done with that one...). Figure Skating is primarily a sport which also has artistic tendencies. Drum and Bugle Corps is primarily a musical activity (Yes, yes, I know...other than guard...sheesh!! ) which, more than other musical "arts," also has athletic tendencies. (Which begs the next question(s): Are all sports athletic? Are all athletic activities "sport?" Inquiring minds really DO want to know!!!) Mallet players strike pieces of wood -- but that sure as heck doesn't make them carpenters (that is, unless Karen and Richard were mallet players as well las singers). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Windish Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 I always thought DCI made the 'sports' reference because someone there thought it would help the appeal of the product more so than the image of just another marching band. I agree with that effort. Now, about that name? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 What a group of people within any activity consider themselves to be or not to be, and what outside people perceive them to be or not be, does not change the actual characteristic of what the activity actually does. DCI has their member corps engaging in a physical activity in which corporate organizations compete against each other with musical performances and they do this within the context of revenue/outlays. So, DCI is a business, DCI is an art, and DCI is a sport; no matter what people want to ‘perceive’ it to be or not to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCorps Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 (edited) . Edited April 3, 2014 by JohnZ personal attack removed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRASSO Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Is figure skating an Art? Apparently it wasn't to Tonya Harding. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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