IMcomguy Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Quite frankly, I don't see it as an advantage or disadvantage. I have yet to see any convincing evidence that draw screwed or boosted anyone, ever, in the placements. People love to have something to get worked up over, (especially when there is already an underlying paranoia that their team won't do as good as they want.) OC this past weekend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BozzlyB Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 OC this past weekend? The problem is, for you to be right, you have to prove it wasn't performance related, either on OC's end, or another corps stepping it up. The reason I don't buy into it based on the uncommon coincidental "someone dropped and their draw sucked" logic, is that if draw really had that kind of impact you would see placements at regionals shuffle on a much more consistent basis based on draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumManTx Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 I think Academy passing Oregon was due to the fact that Oregon completely restaged the guard in the whole closer, have new guard work, and re did the finale of the closer drill wise and it was all pretty dirty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Someone please clarify. For the unusual Allentown format, do the same people who judge their caption Friday night then return on Saturday night and judge the same caption again? yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMcomguy Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 The problem is, for you to be right, you have to prove it wasn't performance related, either on OC's end, or another corps stepping it up. The reason I don't buy into it based on the uncommon coincidental "someone dropped and their draw sucked" logic, is that if draw really had that kind of impact you would see placements at regionals shuffle on a much more consistent basis based on draw. Nobody can ever PROVE anything. It's all semantics. But you'd have to be naive to not even consider that slots have no impact. Otherwise, everything in this activity would be purely random, and it's not. Corps directors choose to have this slotted, tiered system for a reason. Not because they want everyone else to win. They want the best chance of competitive success for themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BozzlyB Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Nobody can ever PROVE anything. It's all semantics. But you'd have to be naive to not even consider that slots have no impact. Otherwise, everything in this activity would be purely random, and it's not. Corps directors choose to have this slotted, tiered system for a reason. Not because they want everyone else to win. They want the best chance of competitive success for themselves. I have considered that slots have no impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splooie99 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 No matter what people say, there is some slotting. you have to leave room for others. if you judge a corps too high, then another corps comes in and surprises you based on performance, you run out of head room. It is psychological, but none the less, I think it is there. Maybe (I hope) I am wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BozzlyB Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 No matter what people say, there is some slotting. you have to leave room for others. if you judge a corps too high, then another corps comes in and surprises you based on performance, you run out of head room. It is psychological, but none the less, I think it is there. Maybe (I hope) I am wrong. I agree, but I would argue this results much more in fluctuation in scores and spreads than in actual placement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jent Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Working on a schedule with the rehearsal sites for Allentown. Anyone that can help me fill in the blanks would be appreciated. I still need the follwoing corps rehearsal sites. Pioneer Cascades Oregon Crusaders Pacific Crest Colts Blue Knights Santa Clara Vanguard Defenders Cadets 2 Mandarins The Academy The Cadets From what I know, Blue Knights will be at Whitehall HS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Working on a schedule with the rehearsal sites for Allentown. Anyone that can help me fill in the blanks would be appreciated. I still need the follwoing corps rehearsal sites. Pioneer...St Clair PA up route 61 Cascades Oregon Crusaders Pacific Crest Colts Blue Knights Santa Clara Vanguard...Pottsvile HS Defenders Cadets 2 most likely South Mountain Middle School in Allentown Mandarins The Academy The Cadets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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