2016 Rule Congress proposals

[George Dixon]

But the part he left out was that discerning fans can only make those distinctions sometimes. And without that one key word "sometimes", we will be going around and around on this aspect.

George Dixon says he can evaluate a battery from his seat in the stands. I bet he can - sometimes. So can I - sometimes. But not when 20,000 fans are giving an ovation; not when my seat is in a dead spot in an indoor venue; not when wind gusts disperse the sound at an outdoor venue; not when kids are rumpling bags of chips two inches behind my head; not when I am too close to a pit amp speaker blasting at full volume.

Tracking the drumline on the field avoids all those aural obstacles. That is why drum judges so often choose to go on the field, instead of taking a seat in the stands themselves.

well... a lot of the top drum guys disagree with you. This proposal will likely pass.

[2muchcoffeeman]

well... a lot of the top drum guys disagree with you. This proposal will likely pass.

So why isn't this argument even part of the proposal? The actual document putting this question before the rules committee doesn't spare a single word for this.

[Kamarag]

So why isn't this argument even part of the proposal? The actual document putting this question before the rules committee doesn't spare a single word for this.

For whatever reason, a lot of the arguments both for and against aren't included in documentation of some proposals, but most certainly are major points of discussion during the rules congress, particularly in the instructors' caucus.

[2muchcoffeeman]

For whatever reason, a lot of the arguments both for and against aren't included in documentation of some proposals, but most certainly are major points of discussion during the rules congress, particularly in the instructors' caucus.

If that's true, it's no way to run a railroad. It's a standing invitation for Trojan-horse proposals, something that one would think DCI is exceedingly keen to prevent.

[Kamarag]

If that's true, it's no way to run a railroad. It's a standing invitation for Trojan-horse proposals, something that one would think DCI is exceedingly keen to prevent.

I completely agree with you.

[Ghost]

So why isn't this argument even part of the proposal? The actual document putting this question before the rules committee doesn't spare a single word for this.

Possible watering down of the percussion evaluations might take place if/when this proposal passes.

[2muchcoffeeman]

Yes, that's been the ongoing discussion since the top of the thread.

[Ghost]

Yes, that's been the ongoing discussion since the top of the thread.

Too many pages to stay on top of and my interest in changes has been low for several years now since I have no vote.

[Jeff Ream]

Are we talking about the skybox or sidelines? Two very different things. I think there are both views reading back.

Either way, I'm not the one to convince. I support whatever you guys decide, It's those within the percussion or music community with possible differences of opinion that need convincing...either way

How are you going to tell when you're on the sideline and you have 70 brass and a color guard in between you and them, with the sound of amplified pits right behind?

[Jeff Ream]

Short answer: Correct, it's not needed.

Long answer: Your instructional staff (unless they completely suck) will give you much better feedback on your performance than any judge ever will. It's the dirty little secret of judging. If a judge *in a performance caption* tells you something you don't already know, you're doing it wrong. What you're hoping for is that a judge gives an *accurate* read on what you did, and assigns a number accordingly. That's it. In fact, you're hoping he misses any issues you do have.

many times a staff is too close to the product or hears the same things over and over and it becomes accepted....when it's not supposed to be. I think we saw that happen in Fort Mills a few years in a row