Lance Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 (edited) http://www.dci.org/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=965782&SPID=166025&DB_LANG=C&ATCLID=211086489&DB_OEM_ID=33500 beyond silly the funniest explanation is for GE Responsibilities: One of the GE judges has a music background and the other has a visual background, but each utilizes the same judging sheet because they are effectively judging the entire show, not just the effect of the music offering or the effect of the visual production. GE judges must be the most experienced, most knowledgeable, and most flexible members of the audience. Plus, they know how to manage numbers in order to give a proper score. The GE judges are doing the romantic job, they’re feeling what the show is offering and responding to what the show is. There are three parts to GE, the intellectual, the aesthetic, and the emotional. Edited July 27, 2016 by Lance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappybara Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 What stood out to me: "There are three parts to GE: the intellectual, the aesthetic, and the emotional" This statement makes it pretty clear to me why Crown and BD have been pretty much dominating GE lately 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappybara Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Another significant thing that is very relevant to the earlier colorguard discussion that was done a couple weeks ago: "To put it another way, what the guards are doing and how well they are doing it. This caption is NOT about the effectiveness of the guard, nor is it about the costumes nor the flags." I wonder how demand versus proficiency is weighted 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortAndFast Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Missing from the article: "But DCI has decided that you're not allowed to see any of the numbers any of these people write down, so really we may as well be pulling the winner out of a hat as far as you're concerned." 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfirwin3 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 What stood out to me: "There are three parts to GE: the intellectual, the aesthetic, and the emotional" This statement makes it pretty clear to me why Crown and BD have been pretty much dominating GE lately Nahhh... you are seeing what you want to see.Those three things aren't nearly as separable and exclusive as it sounds in this filler write up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappybara Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Nahhh... you are seeing what you want to see. Those three things aren't nearly as separable and exclusive as it sounds in this filler write up. How exactly is it then? I'm still trying to fully comprehend this caption Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.E. Brigand Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 (edited) As "Adjudication 101", this is a pretty poor article, I'm sorry to say. If anything, it seems directed at people who already know pretty well what the judges do. For instance, take a look at this description: "The Visual Proficiency judge zooms in and out on performers, but from the periphery of the field. They look at small groups and individuals, but try to not focus on any particular person. This is the judge that used to be referred to as Field Visual, and earlier, Marching and Maneuvering." This doesn't say what the judge is "zoom[ing] in and out" for. When they "look at small groups and individuals", what is it they want to see? Only people who've been around the activity long enough to remember "Field Visual" or "Marching and Maneuvering", and thus remember what judges with those titles used to do, could take anything specific away from this passage. Edited July 28, 2016 by N.E. Brigand 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortAndFast Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 This was also singularly informative: "The Brass judge is the easiest to explain as they do what they’ve always done; judge the quality of the brass line." Never in a million years would I have figured that one out without DCI spam in my inbox today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappybara Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 As "Adjudication 101", this is a pretty poor article, I'm sorry to say. If anything, it seems directed at people who already know pretty well what the judges do. For instance, take a look at this description: "The Visual Proficiency judge zooms in and out on performers, but from the periphery of the field. They look at small groups and individuals, but try to not focus on any particular person. This is the judge that used to be referred to as Field Visual, and earlier, Marching and Maneuvering." This doesn't say what the judge is "zoom[ing] in and out" for. When they "look at small groups and individuals", what is it they want to see? Only people who've been around the activity long enough to remember "Field Visual" or "Marching and Maneuvering", and thus remember what judges would those titles used to do, could take anything specific away from this passage. That's a good point, I didn't think about this in the perspective of a total newbie reading this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dixon Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 who wrote this? Hallmark? they know how to manage numbers in order to give a proper score. The GE judges are doing the romantic job, they’re feeling what the show is offering and responding to what the show is and we wonder why the scores are what they are at times :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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