ripchops Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Machine, XtraordinarY, Frameworks, and Niagara Falls stand out to me in terms of visual "wow" moments. I miss the old Cavies drill. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaviesFan17 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 My favorite thing about "Machine" is that there were no electronics, which makes the show even more impressive. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallace Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 A lot of those great drill segments of the 2000s were born in the eighties and nineties. Brubaker wrote spectacularly. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xandandl Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, wallace said: A lot of those great drill segments of the 2000s were born in the eighties and nineties. Brubaker wrote spectacularly. While Steve got much of the credit for the ideas which were usually written on half of a diner's paper napkin, it was Peter Van Dorpe, now a Chicago FD official, who charted all the ideas, made the adjustments before the MMs got the designs and what we now call dots, and did a great but quiet job of cleaning the Cavaliers. He stayed in Chicago when Brubaker started at Star, one reason Steve didn't last long there. Edited February 28, 2017 by xandandl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook'emCavies Posted February 28, 2017 Author Share Posted February 28, 2017 I believe The Cavaliers will place in the top 3 a lot sooner than anyone expects. It is going to be exciting to see what they do in the next coming seasons! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRASSO Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Hook'emCavies said: I believe The Cavaliers will place in the top 3 a lot sooner than anyone expects. It is going to be exciting to see what they do in the next coming seasons! I can see the Cavs possibly moving into medal contention pretty quickly from here on out. There is a solid upward trajectory from them the last few years, and the show design has gotten stronger each of the last 3 years, imo. So it wouldn't surprise me should this occur. Edited March 1, 2017 by BRASSO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjeffeory Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 (edited) On 2/27/2017 at 6:54 PM, xandandl said: While Steve got much of the credit for the ideas which were usually written on half of a diner's paper napkin, it was Peter Van Dorpe, now a Chicago FD official, who charted all the ideas, made the adjustments before the MMs got the designs and what we now call dots, and did a great but quiet job of cleaning the Cavaliers. He stayed in Chicago when Brubaker started at Star, one reason Steve didn't last long there. Steve has written for several groups during that time, and they were each unique. Brubaker didn't stay at Star or Bluecoats for reasons other than what you've implied. Star went the Zingali route, and Cavaliers stuck with the Brubaker route. Nice of you to name drop, but Steve would be one of the first people to say it was a team effort at the Cavaliers. Edited March 1, 2017 by jjeffeory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xandandl Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, jjeffeory said: Steve was written for several groups during that time, and they were each unique. Brubaker didn't stay at Star or Bluecoats for reasons other than what you've implied. Star went the Zingali route, and Cavaliers stuck with the Brubaker route. Nice of you to name drop, but Steve would be one of the first people to say it was a team effort at the Cavaliers. My dealings with Steve, the Cavaliers staff then, Star administration and staff and the Van Dorpes has me stand by my words. You certainly are entitled to your opinion and experience about someone who was super talented and presented enjoyable shows. Edited March 1, 2017 by xandandl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjeffeory Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, xandandl said: My dealings with Steve, the Cavaliers staff then, Star administration and staff and the Van Dorpes has me stand by my words. You certainly are entitled to your opinion and experience about someone who was super talented and presented enjoyable shows. I just don't want to see anyone sully any names or not give a DCI hall of famer the respect they deserve. My dealings with all those parties that you've mentioned circa 88 - 90 make me have a different perspective. What you say is partly accurate, but not totally accurate. I also don't see the point other than maybe something negative, so I'd like to leave it positive. That's ancient history, and this thread is about The 2017 Cavaliers. Just saying... Incidentally, heard a clip from the last camp before it was very quickly taken down. Wow. They sounded great. It's February. They're being super secretive just like everyone else. Edited March 1, 2017 by jjeffeory 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook'emCavies Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 On 3/1/2017 at 0:36 AM, jjeffeory said: I just don't want to see anyone sully any names or not give a DCI hall of famer the respect they deserve. My dealings with all those parties that you've mentioned circa 88 - 90 make me have a different perspective. What you say is partly accurate, but not totally accurate. I also don't see the point other than maybe something negative, so I'd like to leave it positive. That's ancient history, and this thread is about The 2017 Cavaliers. Just saying... Incidentally, heard a clip from the last camp before it was very quickly taken down. Wow. They sounded great. It's February. They're being super secretive just like everyone else. That is fantastic! I am looking forward to hearing some type of announcement from the corps soon! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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