Hook'emCavies Posted July 22, 2017 Author Share Posted July 22, 2017 7 hours ago, youraveragenoob said: WOW THAT WAS AMAZING!! Seeing everything live for the first time just blew me away! I could not stop smiling! For no reason whatsoever, I will now describe my experience at show. I went with my dad here to my first show because my parents don't trust me going on my own or without adult supervision (my dad knows nothing about drum corps by the way) I had just eaten and I was really excited to see all the corps drum lines and horn lines and stuff as we were about to park in the parking lot and I was star struck because all these people that I had been seeing on YouTube and stuff for months, are right here! So I was on a full adrenaline rush. After we received our tickets and I got myself a Jagged Line T-Shirt we headed toward the lots. I was freaking out and getting goosebumps just walking by the crossmen front ensemble and hornline since that was literally the first time I'd ever seen either live. Now that I think back on it, I think my dad was slightly worried about me lol I could not stop smiling. I seriously could not decide if I wanted to see the Bloocoats drum line, hornline, or the Carolina Crown hornline. But I headed for the Bloo drum line anyways. The first (and last) thing I saw them do was finish up their last warmup and start setting up to play their show music, but...... because of my little experience and even less experience about lots, I thought that they were packing up (ultimate face palm) so I left disappointed (yeah I screwed up) So me and my dad made the walk to see the bloocoats hornline, and we walked in on them practicing in the sections. I started freaking out (keep in mind adrenaline rush) because I recognized their show music so I was like "AHHHHHH I KNOW WHAT THEIR PLAYING DAD" and I could not decide which section I wanted to hear (my dad was very impressed with the bloo tubas after they played their little feature) Eventually we decided (and by we I meant me) to go check out the trumpet line cause that was where most people were. Then blah blah me and my dad had our faces blown off for the first time after hearing them warm up really loudly (btw Samuel Crawford has the best hair I've ever seen) then we also got our faces blown off by Carolina crown and I freaked out again cause I knew their music too. And shortly after I got ###### off because I heard bloocoats drum line playing through the last notes of their music (yeah those epic big hits at the end) At 7:45 we walked to the stadium and I was humming to Carolina crown and bloocoats playing their show music in the background. That was my lot experience and in another post I'll talk about my show experience cause this is getting long. :) this is great! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook'emCavies Posted July 22, 2017 Author Share Posted July 22, 2017 My voice is gone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjoakes Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 41 minutes ago, leadsop04 said: The Blue Devils just tend to pick higher levels of difficulty for their members than these basic high school level skillsets. Ouch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeRapp Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 (edited) 50 minutes ago, leadsop04 said: The Blue Devils just tend to pick higher levels of difficulty for their members than these basic high school level skillsets. As does every world class corps. Edited July 22, 2017 by MikeRapp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry7184 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 7 hours ago, Midwest said: I have been following drum corp for a very long time and truly don't understand some of the scoring this year. BD wining Visual and GE is a bit confusing. Their Park and Bark show has little to no GE and/or Visual. Their brass is very good and deserves to score well. Their color guard is also very good. If GE and Visual have become strictly an extension of color guard and pretty colors, prepare for little to no marching in the future. My advice to corps moving forward, stand still while playing, only march while playing slow tempo music, and play really loud. Also make sure the synth is turned up to 11. Don't forget to include pretty colors. If you truly want to impress the judges, throw in some singing that has the effect of finger nails scratching against an old fashion chalk board. SCV and BC should be leading the pack this year. While being progressive in their show designs, they continue to utilize those things that have always separated drum corps from bands. PS.....I don't hate BD as many of you might accuse me. I have always been a big BD fan. They have had great shows over the years. This year is not one of those. Members are great, staff and judging is where my disappointment originates. I have never been a BD fan. I love BD 2017. It is one of my favorite BD shows. I don't agree with the park and bark assessment. I used to think that too, but the reality is BD doesn't get some judging pass that no other corps get. They are just so #### good and probably get the absolute best talent in the world. I hope, against all hope, that SCV wins it all this year, but I wouldn't be surprised, nor would I disagree if BD won. I would just be disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candid Insight Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Anyone who thinks the Blue Devils 'pick higher levels of difficulty' while the other top 5 corps are displaying 'basic high school skillsets' is clearly watching through Blue Devil colored glasses. Just check out the last 90 seconds of Santa Clara's program. Every one of the top World Class corps is performing high levels of difficulty. The fact that - as many people have pointed out - the Blue Devils are winning the Visual Analysis (Comp) caption is of concern. I really like the Blue Devils program and it is fine with me if they 'park and play', casually walk to their next set, etc. And I agree that there are visual effects you can create while in place and those movements deserve credit. However, if 80 members (more than half the corps) spends too much time in one place it does not create as much effect as another corps that offers more visual content. In my opinion, SCV should be scoring higher in Visual Analysis (Comp) than the Blue Devils. Their visual program is superior in that caption. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappybara Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 1 hour ago, leadsop04 said: Most people that say these comments tend to be (but not always) brass players that base the level of difficulty of a show by how physically demanding the drill is. (Noticed I said physically demanding because there is a difference between difficult drill and physically demanding drill) The words "marching while playing" are no where on the sheets by the way. Marching is but one way to move around the field. Marching is but one skill set in the visual performance caption. The Blue Devils just tend to pick higher levels of difficulty for their members than these basic high school level skillsets. If you truly watch the show with an open mind you'll see that the entire corps is doing really advanced movement throughout the entire production. There is more than one way to generate effect. The hornline is but one section of the drum corps. The Blue Devils have the 2 most successful visual designers of all time on their staff. Maybe we should all start asking ourselves why Jay Murphy and Scott Chandler made their decisions on that part of the show. Why are the brass "standing" (while doing choreography) in pods during flight of the bumble bee? Was it to generate a visual call and response? Was it to create negative space for the rifles for their killer feature? Why are the brass just walking to a "park and bark" (while doing choreography) for the ballad? Is it to let the flag add on feature be the focus? Is it to let the music drive the effect at this moment? Is it to give the older drum corps fans what they've been begging for? (Just play a full melody and blow my face off) There designers are brilliant. I'm beyond ecstatic for what this show Is, what it can be, the boundaries of design thst it's pushing, and that it's being rewarded by the judges. I hope this trend continues for the rest of the season. Very insightful, thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midwest Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 I played percussion. I have watched both shows many times. BC and SCV are better corps, better show design, better percussion, better drill, better GE, better Visual. BD deserved to win in 2014. They didn't deserve to win in 2015 or this year. 3,5,10 years from now, no one will remember this BD show. Most people who respond the way you did are from the west coast. Let's hope the judges from the Midwest will see things differently. My bet is SCV will win finals. While I prefer BC, I can't deny SCV show design and performance is excellent. BD show is something slightly better then a high school band show design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midwest Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Candid Insight said: Anyone who thinks the Blue Devils 'pick higher levels of difficulty' while the other top 5 corps are displaying 'basic high school skillsets' is clearly watching through Blue Devil colored glasses. Just check out the last 90 seconds of Santa Clara's program. Every one of the top World Class corps is performing high levels of difficulty. The fact that - as many people have pointed out - the Blue Devils are winning the Visual Analysis (Comp) caption is of concern. I really like the Blue Devils program and it is fine with me if they 'park and play', casually walk to their next set, etc. And I agree that there are visual effects you can create while in place and those movements deserve credit. However, if 80 members (more than half the corps) spends too much time in one place it does not create as much effect as another corps that offers more visual content. In my opinion, SCV should be scoring higher in Visual Analysis (Comp) than the Blue Devils. Their visual program is superior in that caption. Totally agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBird Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 I played percussion. I have watched both shows many times. BC and SCV are better corps, better show design, better percussion, better drill, better GE, better Visual. BD deserved to win in 2014. They didn't deserve to win in 2015 or this year. 3,5,10 years from now, no one will remember this BD show. Most people who respond the way you did are from the west coast. Let's hope the judges from the Midwest will see things differently. My bet is SCV will win finals. While I prefer BC, I can't deny SCV show design and performance is excellent. BD show is something slightly better then a high school band show design. I feel like people are waaay too biased and never trust the judges. I mean, no offense, but I'd rather trust the judges' assessment than yours. Obviously, the judges aren't perfect, but DCI doesn't pick amateurs to be judges. These guys have marched at the highest level, they've been around the activity, for 30+ years, been around music their entire lives, and they're PROFESSIONALS. No offense again, but what have you done? Judges aren't perfect but I'm sure they're the best people for their job posted from the DrumScorps app 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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