Terri Schehr Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 On 9/28/2017 at 7:41 PM, DawsonBurnes said: Definitely 2000 Southwind Definitely. I was ######. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fran Haring Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 On 9/30/2017 at 1:58 AM, Stu said: A plausable reason: If you knew you were not going to medal or win, but you also believed that you were still safely in the top 12 and you thought all the material you created needed to be presented, a small penilty for bring over the time limit was not that big of a deal. However sometimes, like in this case, it occasionally backfired. That's a good point. "Hey, we're in... don't worry about it." Oops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUARDLING Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Fran Haring said: That's a good point. "Hey, we're in... don't worry about it." Oops. A reason yes, in the case with cadets no. Edited October 2, 2017 by GUARDLING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fran Haring Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) 17 minutes ago, GUARDLING said: A reason yes, in the case with cadets no. Also a good point. LOL. From what I recall, Cadets were not what would be considered a slam dunk for a top 7 or 8 spot that year... so it wasn't like they went in to DCI prelims overconfident or anything. These timing issues could be costly back then. A DCA corps lost that circuit's championship one year... ironically, the same year as the Cadets' penalty issue (1972)... due to a one-point timing penalty. That first DCI championship.... I wasn't there, but It seems like everything... the title, the finalist spots and placements... were totally up for grabs. For one example, Des Plaines Vanguard finished well back of the Kilties at the World Open the first weekend of August that summer... but beat the Kilties two weeks later at DCI Finals. Edited October 2, 2017 by Fran Haring 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 1 hour ago, GUARDLING said: A reason yes, in the case with cadets no. Since you know for certain that is a No, then please elighten us on the 'real' reason in 'this' particular case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Just now, Stu said: Since you know for certain that is a No, then please elighten us on the 'real' reason in 'this' particular case. The staff just kept diddling around with the show all the way from Garfield to Wisconsin. Adding this and that...it was a bit chaotic really. We were not ever going to be in the top level, so it was not complacency, that is for sure. I think things just got away from the staff, as great as they were. The day after...they all disappeared. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUARDLING Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Stu said: Since you know for certain that is a No, then please elighten us on the 'real' reason in 'this' particular case. Naw if Mike D or others here from that time want to they could..but as I did say earlier much more to that story like often bitd.Didnt disregard your comment which could be very true in many cases just not this one. Edited October 2, 2017 by GUARDLING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 1 hour ago, MikeD said: We were not ever going to be in the top level So instead of thinking the penility would not put you out of top 12, the situation was that you were never going to be in the top 12 anyway, therefore the overtime penility really made no difference at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUARDLING Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 8 minutes ago, Stu said: So instead of thinking the penility would not put you out of top 12, the situation was that you were never going to be in the top 12 anyway, therefore the overtime penility really made no difference at all. Don't think he said that...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fran Haring Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 6 hours ago, GUARDLING said: Don't think he said that...lol Remember... this is Stu. By the time this is done, he'll want a detailed list of what the staff members ate that summer, to see if their diet had any connection to whatever incorrect decisions they made regarding the length of the Cadets' show. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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