fsthnds Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 4 hours ago, jwillis35 said: Always feel free to DM me. You're one of the people I trust and I am sure you have way more info than I do. I think all I was trying to say is that from an outsider perspective it would look bad if I publicly berated this person and threw out an accusation with no proof. I know of her but I don't know her personally. I know the family has been in the activity for a long time. I'm sure it wasn't all bad but I just don't want to comment on things I have no knowledge of or proof of. The proof is in the Court Decision! = Mismanagement of a Non-Profit ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000Cadet Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 On 10/6/2022 at 2:05 PM, IllianaLancerContra said: 2023 Cadets Show: Make Cadets Great Again Yeah. No. On 10/6/2022 at 12:36 PM, jwillis35 said: Not being in the loop I have no proof or inside knowledge that Denise did anything wrong or illegal. I wish her well. I am sure some of you have more info that I and that's all good, but for most of us unless someone is showing solid proof of wrong doing I think this mostly boils down to Denise giving 3 years to help the Cadets as they move forward from a very bad situation. I doubt this had anything to do with finances. The Cadet basically had nothing after the GH scandal and organizational shakeups. Sure, it could be that Denise (like many in drum corps, and most creative types) was tough to deal with; and perhaps the BOD disagreed with her staffing choices (or the release of percussion instructors). Who knows? I just have no evidence and frankly I am not looking for it. In the end I think this is a person who gave a lot of time to Drum Corps and DCI. I am confident much of it has been well spent and well served. Could there have been issues in the end? Sure. But unless I see proof that she was stealing from the corps or proof of abuse, I am mostly led to believe that their were disagreements and that kind of stuff happens in every organization. If you have proof of something (you know, 100% factual proof) then send it to DCI. Don't respond to this post with "well, she did this and that and the other thing." Ok. You might be right, but that sort of talk feels like rumors and everyone's version of a story. To be completely honest, I couldn't care less how long she's been in DCI. Doesn't give her the right to treat people the way she has. There was a time when I felt about the same as you, but not anymore and not after talking to multiple people who have sent letters to DCI about her abuse. The topic is about her "retirement" so I feel like we should be able to talk about what she has done, both good and bad. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwillis35 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 On 10/7/2022 at 1:25 PM, fsthnds said: The proof is in the Court Decision! = Mismanagement of a Non-Profit ! This was for 27th Lancers, correct? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Lancer Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, jwillis35 said: This was for 27th Lancers, correct? This was for co-opting a name and a legacy to feather a nest and drop a few crumbs from the table. Edited October 9, 2022 by Jurassic Lancer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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