scheherazadesghost Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, IllianaLancerContra said: Constant intervals. Straight lines when they are supposed to be. Brass & percussion in tune. Consistent attacks and releases. All the snares/tenors/basses playing together. Flags & rifles spinning/tossing/catching together. And so forth. One of the most steadfast holdovers from our military roots. As an instructor, cleaning was always my favorite part of the job! Edited July 7, 2023 by scheherazadesghost 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scheherazadesghost Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, rpbobcat said: Box 5 ? They're referring to WGI's judging system rubric that originally had 5 categories of achievement, now has six. See here: https://wgi.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/2023_WGI_CG_Ind-World-GE_Scoresheet.pdf Edited July 7, 2023 by scheherazadesghost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpbobcat Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 14 minutes ago, IllianaLancerContra said: Constant intervals. Straight lines when they are supposed to be. Brass & percussion in tune. Consistent attacks and releases. All the snares/tenors/basses playing together. Flags & rifles spinning/tossing/catching together. And so forth. Thanks. That's pretty clear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpbobcat Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 1 minute ago, scheherazadesghost said: They're referring to WGI's judging system rubric that originally had 5 categories of achievement, nor has six. See here: https://wgi.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/2023_WGI_CG_Ind-World-GE_Scoresheet.pdf Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStainGlass Posted July 7, 2023 Author Share Posted July 7, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, rpbobcat said: Box 5 ? The scoring sheets are broken down into 5 boxes and each box represents a word based on performance Box 1 - 1-29 rarely Box 2 - 30-49 infrequently Box 3 - 50-69 sometimes Box 4 - 70-89 usually Box 5 - 90-100 always There was a point some places used box 6 which was like 97-100 but that's gone. As the season goes on everyone gets better and more consistent so they move up the boxes. Edited July 7, 2023 by BlueStainGlass 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
year1buick Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 3 hours ago, BlueStainGlass said: The scoring sheets are broken down into 5 boxes and each box represents a word based on performance Box 1 - 1-29 rarely Box 2 - 30-49 infrequently Box 3 - 50-69 sometimes Box 4 - 70-89 usually Box 5 - 90-100 always There was a point some places used box 6 which was like 97-100 but that's gone. As the season goes in everyone get better and more consistent so they move up the boxes. Reminds me of my licensing exam. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 https://www.dci.org/news/judging-and-the-adjudication-system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 9 hours ago, rpbobcat said: The word "clean" gets tossed around a lot on this site. As someone who never marched, could someone please define, in " words of one syllable" exactly what "clean" is ? performed really well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 9 hours ago, jwillis35 said: My general opinion on this is that today cleanliness will be rewarded more. If the show is super easy that will be noted by the judge. When you're talking about the top 12 corps though none of the shows are easy. But it depends on the time of the summer tour. During the early season I think judges will try to see where things are going and what the intended effect is. Around mid-season the GE judges will expect to see improvements and can get a better read on what the intended effect is supposed to generate. As the show cleans those intended effects should be more obvious. During Finals week if the corps is still not very clean then it can be seen as a negative. Perhaps the marchers/players were given something too demanding. In the end a cleaner show makes reading the visual and music so much more obvious. How hard does a show need to be? And does difficulty bring about effect? Sometimes it does. But not all the time. Sloppiness in the drill/visual program or music come Finals week will not project the show's intended effects very well. In this case the judges will give more credit to a corps that performs a show that is hard enough but also clearly developed and super clean in performance. clean helps the effects truly come through. demand often hampers if not clean 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRacer Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 I once heard Swedish Chef in a critique define General Effect as “Bluh herdy snurrbl devestehoodt jkeverda floon a ver— Bork Bork Bork!” It made so much sense after that.👨🍳 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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