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Just now, Richard Lesher said:

Soon enough

Looks like I need to type faster when editing a post. Oh well…….

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56 minutes ago, HockeyDad said:

Interesting reading. At this point, however, does the outcome have any effect on the future of the Cadets?  They seem to be in a place right now whereby a comeback seems highly unlikely, no matter what happens with the lawsuit. Unfortunately. 

Oh there’s no coming back. Even if the case gets dropped, there’s zero money and now zero support. 

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1 hour ago, HockeyDad said:

Interesting reading. At this point, however, does the outcome have any effect on the future of the Cadets?  They seem to be in a place right now whereby a comeback seems highly unlikely, no matter what happens with the lawsuit. Unfortunately. 

Yes it still has effect.  If Plaintiff is successful in their action against CAE, there would be a case on the record where it was found that a new org carrying the Cadet banner is liable for the old org.  Should anybody ever undertake an effort to bring the corps back, they would be knowingly exposing themselves to potential risk, so this hypothetical entity needs CAE to win this one.  The likelyhood of anybody actually doing that and bringing them back?  The Blue Stars ceased operations and came back decades later, so never say never, but personally I am pessimistic not just about that, but about the survival of the activity at all.  Bringing back the Cadets may require a "Bill Cook" barring serious change in the current model and spending requirements.

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2 hours ago, HockeyDad said:

Interesting reading. At this point, however, does the outcome have any effect on the future of the Cadets?  They seem to be in a place right now whereby a comeback seems highly unlikely, no matter what happens with the lawsuit. Unfortunately. 

I believe there is no future for the Cadets.  Saying “a comeback seems unlikely”,  infers a comeback is possible.  It has been mentioned and confirmed that no assets remain.  None.  A comeback is not possible.  There is no cash left and if there were, it’s going to lawyers.  Either theirs or the plaintiffs.  So we all should move on from that glimmer of hope, because there is no future for the Cadets. Exceptionally, painfully sad.  So preventable.

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Even if CAE prevails, there are other individuals who would probably be willing to go after them for misdoings of at least one person we can all think of for similar behavior (edit: depending on what PA's statute of limitations on civil cases is), so they'd be at this for years to come.

Any concept that could be seen as having any connection to any iteration of The Cadets is likely kaput.

 

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8 minutes ago, Slingerland said:

Even if CAE prevails, there are other individuals who would probably be willing to go after them for misdoings of at least one person we can all think of for similar behavior (edit: depending on what PA's statute of limitations on civil cases is), so they'd be at this for years to come.

Any concept that could be seen as having any connection to any iteration of The Cadets is likely kaput.

 

Plus there is a lower standard of proof in civil cases. 

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8 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said:

Plus there is a lower standard of proof in civil cases. 

And YEA's Board in the 90s thru 2018 was notoriously - nearly criminally - lax in overseeing their organization's CEO in matters both personnel and budget related, all of which can be corroborated fairly easily.

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50 minutes ago, FormerXyloWhiz said:

Yes it still has effect.  If Plaintiff is successful in their action against CAE, there would be a case on the record where it was found that a new org carrying the Cadet banner is liable for the old org.  Should anybody ever undertake an effort to bring the corps back, they would be knowingly exposing themselves to potential risk, so this hypothetical entity needs CAE to win this one.  The likelyhood of anybody actually doing that and bringing them back?  The Blue Stars ceased operations and came back decades later, so never say never, but personally I am pessimistic not just about that, but about the survival of the activity at all.  Bringing back the Cadets may require a "Bill Cook" barring serious change in the current model and spending requirements.

Well, actually, Blue Stars came back immediately, first as a cadet corps, then as an A60 corps. They were not inactive for decades, or even for years. 

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21 minutes ago, Slingerland said:

Even if CAE prevails, there are other individuals who would probably be willing to go after them for misdoings of at least one person we can all think of for similar behavior (edit: depending on what PA's statute of limitations on civil cases is), so they'd be at this for years to come.

Any concept that could be seen as having any connection to any iteration of The Cadets is likely kaput.

 

PA’s statute of limitations are pretty strong and have upheld precedent with the state Supreme Court. 

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