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I would like to say something about this. I know a lot of people don't care for Cadets style of show sometimes, and some people don't care for Hopkins because of his drum corps politics. One thing I do have to say is I do applaud their effort for getting information and videos/sound clips to the audience. I may be mistaken, but I think Cadets have more media available for free to the public preseason, than any other corps. So regardless of your opinion of their show, they are putting it out there before most of the other corps. I really wish other corps would do this as well. And sometimes what is really nice is some of their media may eliminate some of the narration or vocals. So thank you to the Cadets for all of your free media. As a huge fan of the activity, I love the fact you are willing to put stuff online so quickly, before it is polished, for the fans to enjoy. Keep up the great work!!

At least his great grandson, Tucker Taft, who I've trained with and competed with while a member of Mass Velosity TC is on the average size. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Optikos/S._Tucker_Taft

Then my work here is complete!

Well, the Cadets had this in their opener in 1996. The "beef" show.

You're not the only one to have that thought :-)

For the good of the activity, I am hoping that the Scouts have success this upcoming season with a Jazz show & that other Corps will decide to play Jazz too.I am very very tired of the Symphonic Concerto for String, Banjo & Harp based on a variation on a theme of dissonace and playingasmanynotesaspossible.

That chart is actually titled "33 222 1 222" and there are certain sections I would love to hear on the field!

I think omitting Chester A. Arthur is a BIG mistake.

Patience is a virtue.

* No question they are a visual distraction for not only audience, but for the production crew making the videos (there's a great video on youtube I think of the production room where the director curses when a judge gets in the way of a good shot). The question is, are judges a SIGNIFICANT distraction? I don't think people skip shows because judges get in the way, and I'm fairly sure people don't buy DVD's or Blu-rays specifically because judges ruin shots. So if we're being honest, they are a very minor distraction at best. * I'm not sure eliminating field judges would eliminate any cost. There would still be a brass & percussion judge, and likely one vis judge to evaluate ensemble and one to evaluate individual/small groups. I think eliminating judges for cost-savings is a valid discussion, but not really in context here: eliminating the percussion field judges does not equal eliminating the percussion judge completely. * judging the lot is interesting from a conceptual idea, but not really practical. Lots = time for members to not only warm-up (sometimes after a long bus ride from housing to stadium), but also a time for members to mentally get in the performance zone. If lots were officially judged, there would need to be, like, a pre-lot warm-up zone or something for members to warm-up before their adjudicated warm-up. Then you'd have judges running around to catch the groups, possibly not having a ton of time to think rationally about numbers, etc. Perhaps there are solutions to all of those, but seems like an unnecessary hassle. * how many serious collisions are there every season? I know those are rarely "reported" publicly, so it is difficult to get a legit assessment, but I would guess very few. While there is always an inherent risk of that, there is FAR more risk of accidents happening due to membership missing a direction change, slipping on the field, or any other weird thing (like the Crown member who went down at Finals a few years ago). Perhaps field judges are not really that big of a cause of concern here * I'm way to verbose * bummer we had to ruin a nice, fun, goofy thread with legit argument

Someone else I'm watching is Pacific Crest......looking over their recent staff announcements and seeing who they retained that they got in the last few years makes me think they'll keep on improving. Their show this year seems pretty unique to the drum corps field. Excited to see where they take it after a very solid 2013. I'm thinking they'll become a part of that 12th - 15th crowd rather than the 16th - 19th crowd.

You are coming out of left field with your conjectures I'm just letting you know, incase you don't you. Or maybe I should say right field........

I've noticed that, for whatever reason, when this subject comes up, people seem to get themselves all bent out of shape over this comparison being made. People seem to say "OMG STOP TRYING TO TAKE AWAY FROM CROWNS SUCCESSES" and I don't really get why people think that's what's going on here. Comparing Crown to Star is a compliment, point blank.

The Crossmen will march the entire season with their old uniforms, performing their Christmas show. Then, in the last performance of the year, Christmas presents will be handed out one-by-one. Each marching member will eagerly tear into the packages to find, of course, a new uniform, which they'll change into right on the spot. The closer of the show will transition straight into the corps exiting the field in parade formation while playing Russian Christmas Music, leaving the gift wrap, boxes, and old uniforms scattered all over the field. Then, if things work out perfectly, the Boston Crusaders will be onto the field next, and they'll tell the judges, "No, wait. Leave it where it is! We can work with this!"

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