leadsop97 Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Poorly written solos! so many times it seems there is just a random 4 bar trumpet solo or whatever other brass instrument you want to look at. Most of them are unnecessary and I always feel like the momentum drops in those sections. some corps, such as BD and Madison make it work more often than not. Other corps, specifically thinking Cadets on this one although others are guilty.....well, the solos just don't need to happen. It's almost as if it's a "solo for solos sake" type of deal. If it fits the show, go for it....if it doesn't, don't bother. I'm a trumpet player, and I love solos, but one of the reasons I've loved Crown's shows the past couple years is because there haven't really been any bland solos that I can think of, or solos in general. The focus is on the full hornline, or at least a full section of the hornline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DcFr3aK Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Boston Crusaders comes to mind during their latin/spanish shows the past few years. Ending of the 03 show is similar sounding (only without the suspended upper voices). If my crappy theory knowledge is correct, the technical name would be a Neapolitan with the suspended upper voices and then back to the tonic. Your theory is dead on! That's exactly what the first poster should have put! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 every drum break looking like the build up to an ensemble moment from a wgi show with all kinds of forced body moves underneath for the sake of doing them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardman Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Cut and paste arranging, though someone said this already. Just play the stinking piece already! I really hope Bluecoats don't chop up "Haitian fight song" this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 every drum break looking like the build up to an ensemble moment from a wgi show with all kinds of forced body moves underneath for the sake of doing them Having never been to a colorguard/drumline show of any type (and never really wanting to), I'm actually pretty thankful for the moments you're talking about in DCI. I've liked most of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NR_Ohiobando Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 (edited) There are dozens of "generic drum corps" chord progressions that arrangers use to finish phrases. My favorite is the bVI, bVII, I progression that started to show up in the late 80's. My favorite one is the end of BD's Tommy show. Here is my recreation of it. Screaming sop solis!!! DuhhhhDehhhhDuhhhhhDana-Na Na DuhhhhDehhhhDehhhhh!!!....DAHH...DAHH...DAHH (bVI)!! MELLOMELLOMELLO !!! (bVII)!! MELLOMELLOMELLLLLLLOOOO !!! (I)!!!!! DAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! UNISOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!!!! DADADA DADADA DAH!!! If you could follow this then you are officially awesome. ...actually now that I think about it, I'm not even sure that was a bVI-bVII-I progression... whatever, it's still awesome Edited June 14, 2009 by NR_Ohiobando Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffUsnaDB Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Just had to listen to that ending... and yes, that's the progression I was talking about... (funny part is that reading your description while listening to it actually lines up pretty good! haha!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaners Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 my peeve is less with the arranging, and more the the 'required material' to be competitive. it seems like every year there are more things to add to the list of stuff you have to do to have a g.e. effective show. why not just let corps be themselves and judge them for whats on the field, not what the judges want to be on the field. i do realize that this is somewhat of a catch 22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hrothgar15 Posted June 23, 2009 Author Share Posted June 23, 2009 Any that you guys are noticing from seeing this year's shows/listening to the APDs? I have to say, I've been listening to SCV, Crown, Boston, and Cadets, and have virtually no complaints musically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stimmung Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Drum corps arranging is generally pretty bland, arrangers generally aren't trained in composition and don't seem to have a ton of knowledge or creativity (the only drum corps arrangements that have really impressed me and come off as interesting are those of Jay Bocook) so you can't really blame them for generic writing. I think my biggest pet peeve is probably just the fact that pretty much every arranger only writes in three keys, B-flat major, E-flat major and F major, especially for openers. I understand this is done for acoustic reasons, but honestly, if you have a good corps to work with you should be more worried about being a bit more artistic and not just mulling over whether or not a chord is going to be hard to tune or not. That leads me to another thing, there's a lack of artistry in drum corps arranging in general (how many times does Appalachian Spring have to be played for people to realize that?) The genre in general is a retrogressive one, and whenever a corps comes along which goes against the aesthetic stream, like a Star or a BK, then there is a SEVERE backlash from many, suffice it to say, uneducated peoples from other corps and in the audience. In my defense I got an average grade of the B-C range combining my 4 Theory classes. Though, most of that has to do with trying to learn ...ugh...#### YOU SCHOENBERG Sigh, it isn't that hard, man up plz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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