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Never ceases to amaze me how effectively those front ensemble crews get all that stuff in and out in such a short period of time.

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Jeff and I had a conversation about this concerning a certain whiny Director who complains he doesn't have enough time to get his stuff on the field, and how it tires out his members to rush out and do this and why he should be above being penalized for this

1: Rehearse doing this

2: The rules of any competition circuit are clear about time allotted, read said rules, understand and adhere to them

3: Maybe if it's that bad, maybe... you have too much freakin' stuff to drag on....

Anyhow, I did run into Tom Robson at an event at Capital City Airport and totally ran unknowing into Kathy Bacon at her workplace. It was really nice to see both of them. :cool:

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2A...most circuits. One lets rules slide if it means you keep paying their fees

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That's the thing....you just rehearse the whole She-Bang getting it on (and off) the field.. I think they were a little more lax way back... the thing now is that they have things attached to the keyboard "carts" so you might have a marimba with two cymbals and a small table of "toys" attached to it, a lot of the timpani are on carts or have bigger wheels than they did way back...the "percussion" set ups are all on wheels...in 84 and 88 we just used whatever stands we could find, and had 80 people just handing things to us.

I wouldn't want to mess with the electronic stuff... THAT would be a frustrating thing to keep clean/dry/and working!

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The Bucs have Frank Franko taking care of the electronics stuff, Ben.

He's fantastic to talk to and learn from. Frank just smiles when I tell him I learn something new from him every time I see him, and that I deeply appreciate it.

Great person, educator, and really has his act down on that end of the spectrum.

The Bucs' show last year- the electronics fit the show like a well-tailored Italian suit. It felt like it was part of the show and not something to hide weaknesses, or to be the main element of the program that made it all work. Fantastic percussion, brass, and a hard working guard who picked up the pace when they were kicked to the curb and got into the mix at the end made that season for them.

Work calls, bah.

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yeah Frank is a master at many things. great resource

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Yeah, I'm sure you need a specialist for it... how could you NOT have someone dedicated to that craziness! I did read something last year, year before maybe about someone trying to suggest that each venue (or DCI) should provide a single dedicated sound system and the corps just come on the field and "plug in"...knowing what that crazy world of indoor went through with that stuff, I could only imagine how much of a cluster**** that would be at this level! And that article pretty much ruled out that in any way, shape, or form!

But 84 was a learning experience with that stuff for me... we had a cart that fit Rickie Lee's timpani on (heads down) and stacked the cymbal stands a certain way on the legs. I carried the three North Toms on and off (on a modified roto-tom stand...they were one of the old sets of North "tenors" that they used the two years before similar to the kind Sun used)

On the way OFF the field, we flipped the DM podium over, and just pulled the legs up from the cymbal stands, and put them in to get things off quickly.

88 was a whole different thing because pits were a little more complicated. (and the mallet instruments weren't modified for field use at that point) Pushing a full sized Marimba was a challenge, especially on grass, and gravel! But a bigger cart (with a golf cart) was the order of the day! :thumbup:

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now, the pit could almost use it's own RV

When I went to DCI out in Indy a few years back, I had low seats (right next to where the staff got to sit) and was able to watch a lot of the pits setting up and tearing down...talk about massive amounts of stuff! It almost seemed like the corps that played before and after the breaks were relieved!

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