Matt_S Posted March 17, 2010 Author Share Posted March 17, 2010 Fiedler raises a great point, which I mentioned in the Bold Predictions thread. IT should be open for all. Sound can change from day to night and they should explore all options that day, not just under the stars While I'm not really concerned about it to the extent that he is, I do agree that Fiedler has a point. It would be easy to sidestep this issue, however big or small it may be, by just leaving the roof open all week. I don't know how much is really accomplished by doing this halfway, especially considering the difference that will be made by having progressively larger crowds each day. Attendance alone will play around with the sound, so Quarterfinals doesn't strike me as a great control setting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NakedEye Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Here's a question: didn't they say that the Black Curtain of Doom couldn't be in place when the roof was open, as it would blow around too much? I believe they also said it takes more than 15 minutes to hang/remove that thing. So....I wonder if there will be a curtain for any of Thursday's competition - both open and closed roof? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifer Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I think it should be open all day. Its not like we aren't already used to sweating in the sun during the rest of the season. Yes, but it sounds like the walls of LOS turn it into a sauna during the day even if it isn't that hot out. Even with the window wall open, air does not circulate well in that box without the AC running. I'd be willing to bet that the excessive temperatures on the field with an open roof at 2pm (for example) would be more of an unfair disadvantage for those corps than any benefit the later groups might get from any improvement to sound from the roof being open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjeffeory Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 The real message here is that the roof will be closed for semifinals and finals this year. I think it's a good idea to open it, get some data, and find out if having the roof open will help with the sound. I THOUGHT that was the point in the first place. My mistake. I agree Fiedler does have a good point. The roof really should be open the whole day, or closed the whole day. This simply sends a message that 16th place and below are more different than higher placing corps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_S Posted March 17, 2010 Author Share Posted March 17, 2010 This simply sends a message that 16th place and below are more different than higher placing corps. No, performance order does that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 While I'm not really concerned about it to the extent that he is, I do agree that Fiedler has a point. It would be easy to sidestep this issue, however big or small it may be, by just leaving the roof open all week. I don't know how much is really accomplished by doing this halfway, especially considering the difference that will be made by having progressively larger crowds each day. Attendance alone will play around with the sound, so Quarterfinals doesn't strike me as a great control setting. i agree 100%. and that it won't be open the whole day is also an issue....the sound will be drastically different for the judges who have to compare what they heard under the roof, vs. what they hear without it. and yes, quarters is not the right test group for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjeffeory Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 (edited) No, performance order does that. I knew someone was going to say something like that when I didn't put all the qualifiers and disclaimers on the post. Performance order doesn't mean that Corps X is more "worthy" than corps Y of having the roof open or closed. It means they had a higher score. Two different things ( Notice I didn't use the word better. I'm sure that would have created another obvious exchange). Edited March 17, 2010 by jjeffeory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawker Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Well, we'll see once and for all if it makes a difference. . . .and as far as Fiedler's comments go, well . . .every outside championship has always had "inconsistent" conditions for each group. Drum corps isn't performed in a vacuum, nor should it be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 No, performance order does that. it does send a message: "you wont be telecast, so under the roof for you" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeN Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Hey, it's a start - let's see if it even makes a difference. If it does markedly improve the sound, then in '11 we'll likely see it open for all events. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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