Jeff Ream Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 You really think they sat down and counted up the comments and than calculated a percentage? OK.Music judges have the ability to see and understand the movement demands placed on the players performance of the chart. I doubt most visual judges can say the same about the details of percussion performance (to use your example). I cringe when some of the USSBA 'Overall Effect' judges who are primarily visual folks make the occasional and obligatory music comments, in lots of cases totally lame or even factually incorrect. A lot of them just don't have the music background to the level needed for such comments to be remotely helpful. But your comment from the music judge makes my point exactly...the visual demands are being used as they relate to the music, which IMO is not only fine...it should happen consistently. well Mike...yes, they did just that. They did sit down and count. We've even had one DCI staffer I know well come right out and say it on here this past summer while on tour. Sadly, it trickles down to all levels of the activity. While I agree music judges do know what's going on musically, enough of these visual judges have been around and should have some basic understanding. hell one prominent GE visual judge in DCI is a college band director. There are others that also have music in their backgrounds. However while you mention "effect" judges ( and you give a great reason why overall effect is a disaster waiting to happen if DCI adopts it), in more performance oriented captions, there should be reward both ways...and there isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirdcoast Posted November 22, 2010 Author Share Posted November 22, 2010 What the fans want doesn't matter. Oh yes it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FHdork Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 (edited) <but on a visual tape do you hear "oh snares, you missed that form locking, but I realize you're trying to lock a fast roll there"> Sorry...I just had to re-post this quote because, despite the arguing about it from people that purport to know...it seems totally true to me. The idea of a visual judge saying anything like that is laughable. I would think our activity would only improve if ALL judges were more aware of the simultaneous demands so well illustrated by other posters. Edited November 22, 2010 by FHdork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 do you not find it imbalanced that music judges get crucified for not taking visual issues into consideration, but visual judges do not? <but on a visual tape do you hear "oh snares, you missed that form locking, but I realize you're trying to lock a fast roll there">Sorry...I just had to re-post this quote because, despite the arguing about it from people that purport to know...it seems totally true to me. The idea of a visual judge saying anything like that is laughable. I would think our activity would only improve if ALL judges were more aware of the simultaneous demands so well illustrated by other posters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirdcoast Posted December 4, 2010 Author Share Posted December 4, 2010 What do fans want in 2011?To see Bones Saturday night in Indy. This I would like alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindap Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 (edited) <!--quoteo(post=2946093:date=Dec 3 2010, 09:19 PM:name=thirdcoast)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (thirdcoast @ Dec 3 2010, 09:19 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2946093"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This I would like alot.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> back field back drop centre aisle ;-) (note to myself; get better seats next time I go and take extra batteries for the camera:) <img src="http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff229/lindap_album/since2010/2010-academy.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /> The above code generated after I edited my post. The photo is reposted below using IMG link. The site is nice. No worries. I know it takes time to get the kinks out. Good job DCP staff! Edited December 5, 2010 by lindap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveKathyG Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 (edited) <!--quoteo(post=2912320:date=Sep 19 2010, 02:52 PM:name=Hrothgar15)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hrothgar15 @ Sep 19 2010, 02:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2912320"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->- Brass limited to bell-front bugles in the key of G - No electronic or otherwise non-acoustic sounds - Musically focused show designs - Judging split of 65% musical, 35% visual - Appropriate guard uniforms - Everything else roughly the same<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Probably should have renamed the thread title "What the fans <u>of this millenium</u> want....2011" Or "Btichy Responders... HERE'S YOUR CHANCE!!!" Edited December 4, 2010 by LoveKathyG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob984 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 I wish for........ shows with great musical arrangements that emotionally move the crowd............. judging that rewards the above described shows......... a super-competitive season with no clear-cut leaders and different winners all of the time....... great performances......... great crowds.......... great weather.......... GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirdcoast Posted December 5, 2010 Author Share Posted December 5, 2010 I wish for........ shows with great musical arrangements that emotionally move the crowd............. judging that rewards the above described shows......... a super-competitive season with no clear-cut leaders and different winners all of the time....... great performances......... great crowds.......... great weather.......... GB I think and cant wait to see how big the crowds will be in 2011. This is going to be a special year to be a fan and a MM. Cant wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpsEVOL Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 (edited) New music. New designs. Innovation. EVOLution! Out with the old In with the NEW. Edited December 10, 2010 by corpsEVOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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