MikeD Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Agreed, for some reason people want to deny it's marching band now. So silly. Who denies that? The opposite is what is happening in this thread. YOU are denying that drum corps is drum corps is what is happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 No matter how many times people say this, it only adds one more time that they are frankly completely wrong. As mentioned above, lots of circuits before DCI set up separate divisions within their circuits. One for " Drum Corps " ... another for " Marching Band ". The DIvision was that... a " division "... one wholly for Drum Corps, the other for Marching Band. They were easily distinquishable and readily identifible. How ? Principally by instrumentations utilized. Were there any confusion back then within these circuits as to what constututed a " Drum Corps " and which constituted a " Marching Band " within thesse circuis, within its membership base, and within its fan bases ?. No. Never a single peep of complaint as near as I could tell. Not a single disagreement within these circuits as to what constituted a " Drum Corps " and what constituted a " Marching Band ". Even the judges could easily distinquish between the two, as many judged in both the separate divisions.. often on the same day, and often in the same show. So what can we learn from this ? Well, for starters, we can acknowledge for once that the often stated comment were often times hear that " Drum Corps have always been Marching Band " to be wrong... and that no amount of a feeble attempt to ignore history or recreate a revisionist history can deny the clear and observable historical fact that at one time " Drum Corps " were in fact decidedly not " Marching Band " and that circuits throughout the country and in Canada set up separate divisions for the distinctive two. Those are the facts. And no amount of a lack of understanding of Drum Corps history allows one to state that " Drum Corps has always been Marching Band", when historical, observable evidence clearly proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that such a statement is simply categorically false and fundamentally unhelpful to both rational dialogue and counter productive to educational enlightenment and knowledge. They were two separate divisions of the marching band activity set up based on instruments legal at the time in both, just like organizations today define what is legal and not legal within their organizations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRASSO Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 As this activity grows. Lol I know.. people's view of things on here seem more like Fantasyland at Disney sometimes. " Drum Corps is growing " ? If only it were true. Heck even the G7 are perplexed thats its not growing, and admit that they are stumped as to the reasons why... despite all the band talent flowing into the ranks each and every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skevinp Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I have always thought of drum corps as a subset of marching band. Viewed thusly, the positions <a drum corps is a marching band> and <drum corps is distinct from marching band> are both true. People can define circuits for the purpose of competitions any way they want, but the term 'marching band' has a broader meaning in recognized conversation, and good luck not using it in trying to explain to a newcomer what drum corps is. Perhaps a good compromise would be Hard Corps Marching Band. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mello Dude Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Who denies that? The opposite is what is happening in this thread. YOU are denying that drum corps is drum corps is what is happening. What makes it a drum corps? Because someone says so? Some "experience" thing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 DCI is the drum corps subset of marching band. Always has been. That is what you seem to be missing. Maybe you missed this so I will reiterate: I have contended, and still contend, that all drum corps are marching bands but not all marching bands are drum corps; I have contended, and still contend, that drum corps is a sub-set of marching bands. But I have also contended, and still contend, that DCI drum corps has been morphing as of late; and if DCI corps keep moving in the direction they are going there soon will not be any difference in the instrumentation, style, music, et al between a DCI unit and BOAesque Marching Bands other than one being high school affiliated and the other an independent organization. At that point DCI units, not DCA, not SDCA, but DCI units will in essence stop being a unique drum corps sub-set and become merely the next level extension of BOA type Marching Bands programs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUARDLING Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I know.. people's view of things on here seem more like Fantasyland at Disney sometimes. " Drum Corps is growing " ? If only it were true. Heck even the G7 are perplexed thats its not growing, and admit that they are stumped as to the reasons why... despite all the band talent flowing into the ranks each and every year. maybe if people as you say are looking as to why SOMETHING ISNT HAPPENING. We need to look in OUR own back yards...things dont go down hill as some think over night so if it took a long time...maybe if one doesnt buy into all the LOGICAL reasons for things changing then THEY need to take responsibility for the so called demise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 What makes it a drum corps? Because someone says so? Some "experience" thing? The governing organizations decide what they want to call themselves, be it DCI or DCA. So yes....because a bunch of someones said so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mello Dude Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 The governing organizations decide what they want to call themselves, be it DCI or DCA. So yes....because a bunch of someones said so. Ah, because someone says so and not based on any "substantial" reason. Got it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyDad Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 And it's been a marching band for as long as it's been around. Those are also facts. You had a marching band too. Nothing apologist about it You can say it as many times as you want to , but that doesn't make it so. There once was a large difference between drum corps and marching bands. With drum corps having the tough and cool factor, and marching band being, well, lame and nerdy. Now that drum corps has slid over to marching band, you want to revise history and pretend it always was that way. Sorry. Not so. The cool factor is gone. Drum corps is now, well, lame and nerdy. Notwithstanding the four or so of you who would defend it forever. ..... Even Joe Stalin had a few supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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