Jeff Ream Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 4 hours ago, Tad_MMA said: Oh? SCV beat them overall by 0.4 and in drums by 0.5. Under today's system (with FOUR GE judges), Phantom loses drums by .25 and certainly picks up in MA and Guard. Believe me, I've done the math. Unfortunately, SCV would beat Garfield '87 under today's rules, given Garfield's icky guard. I forgot that Phantom was somehow that close in percussion. Oy. 87 either way i was ok with who won Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 4 hours ago, Tad_MMA said: 11 years in a row? 11 judges in a row? C'mon. W. Chumley "disagreed" with the prior judges in 2016 who had Crown a combined 0.4 ahead of BD. In Finals, he had Crown at 19.6 and BD at 19.9 (CC won guard) -- last month, he had BD in FOURTH in semifinals' guard (they won Thurs and Sat). So, cross him off your list. it's not like it was 11 different people over that span. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tad_MMA Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Jeff Ream said: it's not like it was 11 different people over that span. '08: R. Solomon (19.9) '09: L. Carlson (20) '10: R. Solomon (20) '11: M. Turner (19.8) '12: L. Carlson (20) '13: L. Carlson (19.9) '14: R. Solomon (20) '15: M. Czapinski (19.7) '16: W. Chumley (19.9) '17: C. Raichle (19.6) '18: M. Turner (19.60) Bold denotes "repeat offenders," which has exactly what to do with anything? "This is what I gave last year" can't possibly register in their minds. Obviously, of ANY corps in ANY caption, this has been the most consistent, especially of late. ######, you people are making me publicly defend the Blue Devils! My eyes weren't open to them until 2014! Frankly, I can do without their 2015 and 2016 shows -- yawns, the both of them (to me), but they guarded the heck out of those shows. But again, to deny their greatness, superiority and dominance is to deny the simple math. Einstein couldn't do that, so don't try. Scott Chandler is the Nick Saban of Color Guard. 😝 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Lancer Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 46 minutes ago, Tad_MMA said: Scott Chandler is the Nick Saban of Color Guard. Or is Nick Saban the Scott Chandler of college football? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tad_MMA said: '08: R. Solomon (19.9) '09: L. Carlson (20) '10: R. Solomon (20) '11: M. Turner (19.8) '12: L. Carlson (20) '13: L. Carlson (19.9) '14: R. Solomon (20) '15: M. Czapinski (19.7) '16: W. Chumley (19.9) '17: C. Raichle (19.6) '18: M. Turner (19.60) Bold denotes "repeat offenders," which has exactly what to do with anything? "This is what I gave last year" can't possibly register in their minds. Obviously, of ANY corps in ANY caption, this has been the most consistent, especially of late. ######, you people are making me publicly defend the Blue Devils! My eyes weren't open to them until 2014! Frankly, I can do without their 2015 and 2016 shows -- yawns, the both of them (to me), but they guarded the heck out of those shows. But again, to deny their greatness, superiority and dominance is to deny the simple math. Einstein couldn't do that, so don't try. Scott Chandler is the Nick Saban of Color Guard. 😝 I'm not saying BD should or shouldnt have won most of those years. But as an administrator in a band circuit, you look for trends. Sometimes trends reveal themselves in ways that prove my point. Only 3 people in 11 years didn't get multiple cracks. Of those years, I'd love to see how many of them worked the other 2 days. And this could go for any caption, not just guard, especially when you carry a smaller roster of judges. Edited September 27, 2018 by Jeff Ream 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigW Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 20 hours ago, Jeff Ream said: Sorry but being the championship guard yet you didn’t win finals night is hollow One one hand, yes, there's a kind of odd and uneasy feeling about it. But when there's a trend of the finals judge picking one over the other two judges.... wow, there's also that issue as well to think about. More a "Whassup with that!?" feeling. It's insanely hard to get the panel mix to be fair at every round in terms of the final outcome let alone one caption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUARDLING Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 46 minutes ago, BigW said: One one hand, yes, there's a kind of odd and uneasy feeling about it. But when there's a trend of the finals judge picking one over the other two judges.... wow, there's also that issue as well to think about. More a "Whassup with that!?" feeling. It's insanely hard to get the panel mix to be fair at every round in terms of the final outcome let alone one caption. 2 judges 1 night , same performance average score = BOOM problem solved for those who may want to see something different. OR as is average over 3 shows . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fran Haring Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 2 hours ago, GUARDLING said: 2 judges 1 night , same performance average score = BOOM problem solved Oh yeah??? What if both judges have it in for the Blue Devils, every year??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUARDLING Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Fran Haring said: Oh yeah??? What if both judges have it in for the Blue Devils, every year??? lol..you're killin me🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 31 minutes ago, Fran Haring said: Oh yeah??? What if both judges have it in for the Blue Devils, every year??? Solution...at least one judge must be selected by the Blue Devils each year. You're welcome. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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