Jeff Ream Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 On 3/19/2024 at 3:49 PM, Keith Hall said: The Corps staff go to DCI Meetings and propose judging changes. The corps vote on those changes. WHY visual is more important than Music? I don't know here's the thing, and i am sure this will rankle several: once we got away from the drills of 1960, visual has evolved and become more important in the total package. by the time Cadets zagged, scoring had to zig. fewer of the old school compulsory drill moves ( color pres, concert, exit line etc) were gone. the visual got more creative. Now in some cases, especially with props etc has it gone too far? IMO in some cases yes. but to be anything less than 50% of the score in where things are now isn't realistic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 On 3/19/2024 at 3:02 PM, BigW said: The "home town homerism" was so bad it left me demoralized after the last DCA show I went to. I plan on trying to go to the season end show because Crown et al will be present. I need to snag tickets when available. Hope I'm not too late. I had a Much better time at Dover where the audience: -stayed for everyone -appreciated everyone -and everything was complete- maybe not well polished in some cases, but enjoyable and watchable. Off topic, I really, really liked Spartans. Well, maybe it is on topic- Their music wasn't normal fare, but it was wonderfully arranged, performed, and all made sense phrasally and went from one idea to another without feeling like one had ADHD. hometown homerism has always been there. and always will be. i personally don't pay attention to it and focus on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigW Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 13 hours ago, denverjohn said: Too often when I hear something great and turn my head to see who is producing what I hear, all I see is a speaker box on the 35 yard line. How close to the sideline are you? That's got a lot to do with it. they're setting up the mix for the press box area. When I went to Dover PA last year, I wasn't feeling that from any of the competitors, but I was right below the press box. Surf, Spartans, and Southwind all used a fair amount of amplification. I didn't get that at the DCA contest at Hempfield and I was pretty low down. I was more disappointed with a few incomplete shows than with ensemble blend between Brass, percussion, and electronics. This from a guy who played competitively on and owns a Piston Rotor horn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigW Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 11 hours ago, Jeff Ream said: hometown homerism has always been there. and always will be. i personally don't pay attention to it and focus on the field. I wish I could ignore idiocy. Ever since that one show BITD at Hershey where some cluck physically threatened me when I Blooed the Blue Coats and I stopped going to shows for several years, I really am half afraid of what clucks I'll run into anymore. If my Mom and sister weren't there, I'd have popped that jerk. There have been few times where I've felt comfortable to really appreciate and react as a spectator since then. Usually when there's space between me and anyone else like Clifton when I bought the VIP ticket and like three other people did... or when I'm surrounded by friends/bodyguards. I'll gladly go back to Dover. If I miss the late season all age-World class contest, really, I can work on my Historical gaming miniatures, take myself to a top-class restaurant, or make a road trip to a couple of museums up North to watch live WW2 tank demos. I figure it'll eventually pop up online and I can enjoy it in the safety of my room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashontheinternet Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 On 3/15/2024 at 8:04 PM, Vuitton said: I don't mean to rag on the Bluecoats, because they are not alone. EVERYTHING is written for the judges and nothing is written for the fans. There is no musicality today, or there is rather very little. If the Bluecoats just played the Beatles music without all the runs tossed in all over the place, they wouldn't have scored as well because it wouldn't have been deemed as having as much content. But, it would have been a hell of a lot better. I quite enjoy modern DCI but musically it doesn't hold a candle the golden era. Listen to Regiment's 1996 opener and how it just built and bulit and built over 4 minutes to it's thundering conclusion. THAT is music. THAT is musicality. How the hell can a corps achieve that today when they are playing 15 different pieces in 10 minutes and the hornline is only playing for 4 of them? i understand what you're saying, but i raise you this; bluecoats 2022 and 2023. the selections performed might as well have been carbon copies on the field. Bump and ____45_____ especially. those arrangements were so true to the original, and super musical. these are outliers though, not the standard, unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 10 hours ago, BigW said: I wish I could ignore idiocy. Ever since that one show BITD at Hershey where some cluck physically threatened me when I Blooed the Blue Coats and I stopped going to shows for several years, I really am half afraid of what clucks I'll run into anymore. If my Mom and sister weren't there, I'd have popped that jerk. There have been few times where I've felt comfortable to really appreciate and react as a spectator since then. Usually when there's space between me and anyone else like Clifton when I bought the VIP ticket and like three other people did... or when I'm surrounded by friends/bodyguards. I'll gladly go back to Dover. If I miss the late season all age-World class contest, really, I can work on my Historical gaming miniatures, take myself to a top-class restaurant, or make a road trip to a couple of museums up North to watch live WW2 tank demos. I figure it'll eventually pop up online and I can enjoy it in the safety of my room. maybe i'm lucky.....i've never had interactions like that. well ok once.....DCA in Scranton. i walked to my seat for finals with 2 beers. guy next to me started to complain loudly about "an obnoxious drunk next to me.". then as 2 of my group showed up, i handed them their beers and shot the guy a look. Needless to say i heard not a peep, even when i eventually had a cold one myself. but seriously if you let stuff like that affect your ability to enjoy it, you need to find ways to block it out. i'm not trying to be Johnny sunshine....anyone that knows me knows i see way too much stupidity in the world around us. I just find ways to block it out. Plus now when i am at shows, i have an adorable almost 12 year old to explain stuff to! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terri Schehr Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 26 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said: maybe i'm lucky.....i've never had interactions like that. well ok once.....DCA in Scranton. i walked to my seat for finals with 2 beers. guy next to me started to complain loudly about "an obnoxious drunk next to me.". then as 2 of my group showed up, i handed them their beers and shot the guy a look. Needless to say i heard not a peep, even when i eventually had a cold one myself. but seriously if you let stuff like that affect your ability to enjoy it, you need to find ways to block it out. i'm not trying to be Johnny sunshine....anyone that knows me knows i see way too much stupidity in the world around us. I just find ways to block it out. Plus now when i am at shows, i have an adorable almost 12 year old to explain stuff to! A guy next to me drank seven beers in Foxboro in 05. It was none of my business. I did do the math on how much it cost to drink seven crappy beers In that place. He’d ran up quite a tab. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironlips Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 hour ago, Terri Schehr said: A guy next to me drank seven beers in Foxboro in 05. It was none of my business. I did do the math on how much it cost to drink seven crappy beers In that place. He’d ran up quite a tab. Hey, he was supporting the arts, in his own way. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keystone3ply Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 hour ago, Terri Schehr said: A guy next to me drank seven beers in Foxboro in 05. It was none of my business. I did do the math on how much it cost to drink seven crappy beers In that place. He’d ran up quite a tab. He'd need a second mortgage for the same 7 beers at Lucas Oil... A few years back, I was sitting beside a intoxicated alumnus of a top 3 "blue" corps & he just wanted to talk to me thru the corps' performances. I was nice, but I had to say, "dude'... 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Guns Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 43 minutes ago, keystone3ply said: He'd need a second mortgage for the same 7 beers at Lucas Oil... Brother, if you think Lucas Oil is expensive, I double dare you to go to Levi's Stadium (49ers home stadium) and order a bottled water, and watch two men wearing all black show up and escort you to the basement under the stadium so they can harvest your organs to pay for that water. After going to tons of Niners games and dealing with those insane stadium prices, when we went to finals last summer and saw the Lucas Oil prices, my wife almost cried with how cheap they were. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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