bartyount Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 It seems most corps have policies that all vets must audition with everyone else. However - I don't think I've ever heard of a returning vet not making the cut. 1. Are there corps that say returning vets automatically have a spot if they want it? 2. Has anyone ever heard of a returning vet not making the cut? My personal opinion is that loyalty and experience should be rewarded with an automatic spot, even if there are rookies with more raw talent. (Of course, there should be conditions - like making a certain numbers of camps, paying dues on time, etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Laubhan Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 I know people personally who haven't made the cut as a vet. I understand loyalties, but I certainly understand why a corps would want to take the people that they feel are best for the job, regardless of previous marching experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txtubadude Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 As much as I would say vets should get a spot, sometimes you have to let new blood in. In addition to playing and marching abilities, I'd say attitude would do the trick. Some vets come back to audition but due to their acts or attitude the previous season, they may not be welcome. Also, sometimes you can be hurting for numbers one year and be willing to contract anyone, and the next you may get an ideal for every spot filled at the first camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake_the_hydra Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 (edited) It seems most corps have policies that all vets must audition with everyone else.However - I don't think I've ever heard of a returning vet not making the cut. 1. Are there corps that say returning vets automatically have a spot if they want it? 2. Has anyone ever heard of a returning vet not making the cut? My personal opinion is that loyalty and experience should be rewarded with an automatic spot, even if there are rookies with more raw talent. (Of course, there should be conditions - like making a certain numbers of camps, paying dues on time, etc). Both corps I have marched have cut vets (albeit rarely) for usually one of a few reasons, most of which involve a) attitude, or b ) completely being unable to play the instrument since august. Edited November 30, 2006 by jake_the_hydra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raphael18 Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Yes, vets do get cut for various reasons. No one is immune, no matter how many years you put in. Generally, it comes down to attitude (and ever rissing talent levels). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 I think that policy is mainly in place for tickboxes... you know, kids who play great at their audition and all winter, and then totally fall apart when you put them on the field, and then on the road. I heard BD does not cut vets, but don't quote me on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txtubadude Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 I think that policy is mainly in place for tickboxes... you know, kids who play great at their audition and all winter, and then totally fall apart when you put them on the field, and then on the road.I heard BD does not cut vets, but don't quote me on that. One of my friends tried out for Bluecoats, got beat out by a vet who hadn't touched an instrument since DCI finals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake_the_hydra Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 (edited) One of my friends tried out for Bluecoats, got beat out by a vet who hadn't touched an instrument since DCI finals. Okay, and that certainly happens, too. That's where other factors come in- Has this vet consistently been perfect on the field? How many years have they marched? Have they had leadership positions? Maybe they're going to be made a drum major? And then, how good is your friend? There's many factors. Generally, whatever the staff does (at least, when we're talking about staffs that are of the Bluecoats caliber that clearly know what they're doing), that's correct- they're making the best decisions for the corps possible, and that probably involved cutting your friend. Which sucks. I've been cut before, but when I was cut, it was very justifiable. Edited November 30, 2006 by jake_the_hydra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxmanjames7 Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 I think that policy is mainly in place for tickboxes... you know, kids who play great at their audition and all winter, and then totally fall apart when you put them on the field, and then on the road.I heard BD does not cut vets, but don't quote me on that. vets dont have to re-audition at devs.. at least this year they didnt have to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baristeve Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 One of my friends tried out for Bluecoats, got beat out by a vet who hadn't touched an instrument since DCI finals. Yeah, and if you play more, it automatically makes you a better player/marcher than people who have played less than you in a three month period.... oh wait.. no... no it doesn't... in 2005, 7 vets got cut from bluecoats.... if your friend got cut, it means there were that many people there that were just better than him, and if he wants a spot he should earn it like everyone else instead of complaining about vets that have already proved they can get the job done well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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