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I was in Pasadena, San Bernardino too, you might want to revisit those youtube videos after tonight's show. BD has one of the weakest rifle lines in recent memory, flags are doing extremely well, dance and body movement is improving but no amount of sequin, shades of blue color, ripple effects will be able to hide that they are struggling, this is new territory for them, maybe they will clean, enhance and produce one of the greatest performances in August but as of July 2? No!

Those days are over, "outright" are you kidding me! Boston Crusaders, Carolina Crown and Bluecoats beg to differ 😉

Rough performance for BD tonight, show has tons potential. Already making changes and they need to clean and clean some more. Several holes tonight, this might be the new normal in this changing environment.

I disagree about Bluecoats, but that's for another thread. I seen BD/SCV/Bluecoats/Boston Crusaders, haven't seen Carolina Crown (ambitious use of technology - apps during show) might influence GE. But I want to see the show (RIGHT HERE/RIGHT NOW!!!!) to better gauge their potential. Will brass be strong (you bet), will they have a strong guard and percussion (I have no idea), will the music, visual and drill be good and push the show (idk), I am open to anyone bringing it on the field. Excellence is excellence, I can tell you a work of art when I see it! 😉

Can't predict actual placement but here is my opinion how things might/will shake out But anything can happen!! Placement is not set in stone! Tier 1 corps - Bluecoats/Blue Devils/Boston Crusaders/Santa Clara Vanguard/Carolina Crown - not been able to see them yet! Tier 2 corps - Phantom Regiment/Mandarins/the Cadets - not been able to see them yet!/Cavaliers/Blue Knights - not been able to see them yet! Tier 3 corps - Blue Stars/Crossmen/Academy/Madison Scouts - not been able to see them yet!/Troopers - not been able to see them yet!

It all depends if your have the money (show design, props, equipment), staff (longevity, synergy), talent (depth and member pool). DCI is evolving at a rapid pace (WGI, BOA) and trends are ever changing. It's evolve or be left out. Show designs is major but execution of excellence is critical whether getting the judges or audience attention. My 2 cents!

Having seen BD (2x), SCV (3x) live, after last nights show in Detroit, I would say that the Blue Devils, Bluecoats are on the hunt for title. I would not count out Boston Crusaders or SCV, theses shows have so much potential. Have not seen Carolina Crown YET!!! so anything and everything can change 😉 Bluecoats - the uniform works for me, the show idea is EPIC (extremely complex but it's a journey and the narration works) keeps the music engaging, good soloist, visually lots of original ideas, is it clean NOOO!!! but the concept/music and execution will improve throughout the season. Great vehicle for them, this summer. (The metal tires) need color, it doesn't match the other props or color scheme! My 2 cents! Boston Crusaders - the uniform is perfect for them, great show idea, music is awesome - staging of solos need work (need some type of color to draw the eye to the soloist or where it's coming from, STRONG color guard, better percussion and brass section. LOVE the conical prop and it moves with the music and drill!!! YES! CLEAN, CLEAN, CLEAN and they should do well this summer! Santa Clara Vanguard - interesting show concept and music selection. The uniform is a problem for me (Boston made the effort for making it look like a uniform), SCV looks like a bad middle school production of marching band - not flattering. PERCUSSION hands down will be the force to reckon with this summer. Strong performances with percussion, brass and guard, good drill and visual moments but doesn't it all work together - hmmmmm not yet, it has tons of potential. NEEDS color to POP, can't wait to see and hear how this show develops over the season. Blue Devils - love the show concept, strong sections across the board, if there is a weak section it's the color guard - rifle line. The music works well and the brass staging when the music gets complex is excellent at this point of the season, strong soloist. LOVE the color scheme and the flags in the color guard (medieval flag - first flag in the show is AWESOME), all the other one's complement and enhance the visual aspects of the music. This show has very familiar ideas from past shows, so the excellence is high. I expect an extremely clean and maxed show by the end of the season. Narration is a little confusing but who cares, it's the BLUE DEVILS!!! Corps to watch out for!!! MANDARINS, PHANTOM REGIMENT

Why are you doing this? 2019 shows would of been laughed at in 1989. Different score sheets, different style of design, etc...... A better question would be what shows would be able to compete in this day of age with the current scoring system?

I feel bad for the PR design team, maybe they thought they had a solid design but the structural design of the show isn't there and the execution is way off (for now) or maybe they have a young group that isn't rising to the levels of the staff, I don't know? PR members and staff are working with a show that they were given and designed and now both need to deliver a worthy finals caliber show. But I bet that they are hearing it from the judges across all captions. So all the could of, would of, should of is pointless. Let the season evolve and play out. Maybe PR will surprise everyone and over come early season obstacles and surprise everyone. Best of luck PR! I will keep an open mind.

Here we go again, so I took this from the DCI site. Just to clarify! Responsibilities: One of the GE judges has a music background and the other has a visual background, but each utilizes the same judging sheet because they are effectively judging the entire show, not just the effect of the music offering or the effect of the visual production. GE judges must be the most experienced, most knowledgeable, and most flexible members of the audience. Plus, they know how to manage numbers in order to give a proper score. The GE judges are doing the romantic job, they’re feeling what the show is offering and responding to what the show is. There are three parts to GE, the intellectual, the aesthetic, and the emotional.

1. Who ever scores the highest in GE and Visual at Finals. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. Congratulations you made the cut! Thank your design team! Hoping for a great season. I am open to anyone/group who is innovative and thoroughly thought out their show and are able to maximize their music and visual and are performing at a high level! Bring it!

Waiting patiently to see and hear another amazing show! #NHHH just like the Met Gala!!!!

Agree, Crown better bring it! Can't wait see and hear what they have planned for 2019!

I believe their GE and Visual scores overall at finals begs to differ. Thou you may not like the uniform. I think that the judges liked the concept and those performers and corp made it work! Thank you Blue Stars for thinking outside the box and coming up an original costume for a uniform!

Predictions for 2019 1. either: Blue Devils/Crown/Bluecoats/Santa Clara Vanguard/Boston Crusaders 2. either: Blue Devils/Crown/Bluecoats/Santa Clara Vanguard/Boston Crusaders 3. either: Blue Devils/Crown/Bluecoats/Santa Clara Vanguard/Boston Crusaders 4. either: Blue Devils/Crown/Bluecoats/Santa Clara Vanguard/Boston Crusaders 5. Cadets/Cavaliers - if no one falls down 6. Cadets/Cavaliers - no tarps this season

Santa Clara Vanguard Bluecoats Blue Stars Blue Devils Mandarins Crown Honorable Mention: Boston Crusaders

Too clever, no! It wasn't original by any stretch! James Logan World Guard did it in 1999! Maybe that is why they didn't medal!

penalties at shows, might motivate corps faster!!

My two cents: Have two judges, judge the caption awards during finals (guard, brass, percussion)!

One win is not a trend, caption award dominance maybe but this is too early to tell.

I fixed the thread THE FUTURE IS HERE! Caption: General Effect (GE) Number of judges: Two for most of the season, plus a doubled panel of four during Premier Events (e.g. San Antonio, Atlanta, Allentown) and the World Championships. Points allotted: 40, 20 from each of the two judges. The scores of the two Effect captions are counted for full value. When the panel is doubled, the score of all four judges is divided in half. Responsibilities: One of the GE judges has a music background and the other has a visual background, but each utilizes the same judging sheet because they are effectively judging the entire show, not just the effect of the music offering or the effect of the visual production. GE judges must be the most experienced, most knowledgeable, and most flexible members of the audience. Plus, they know how to manage numbers in order to give a proper score. The GE judges are doing the romantic job, they’re feeling what the show is offering and responding to what the show is. There are three parts to GE, the intellectual, the aesthetic, and the emotional. The corp that best integrates music, visual, brass, percussion and guard in a coherent fashion that is engaging, designed and executed extremely well WINS!!!

WHAT? There is so much wrong with these sentences? I don't know where to begin!

I was thinking the same thing! Let me get my Foldgers Crystals!

Jesus, why is this a topic? There is no DM number score or ranking anywhere in the score sheets! Congratulations to the applicants and the receiver of the award. Focus people, we have way bigger fish to fry! Boston Crusader won guard! Blue Devils won no captions! Phantom Regiment produced a sleeper show! Mandarins BEAT Phantom Regiment (let that sink in), Carolina Crown brass in the last week of tour, what happened?And Santa Clara Vanguard won GE, VISUAL, MUSIC, BRASS and PERCUSSION with an abstract show! FOCUS PEOPLE!