madscout96 Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 I think is is possible that narration cost the Cadets a championship. I don't think this because I crunched GE numbers or anything like that, I just think that DCI didn't want such an unpopular show to win. This probably was the most controversial show since Star 1993, and did that show win? No, even though it was arguably better than the show that came in 1st that year. Yes, that's right, I'm saying DCI pulled some strings. And of course, I have proof of that! Actually I don't. But it's my opinion nevertheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000Cadet Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 I think is is possible that narration cost the Cadets a championship. I don't think this because I crunched GE numbers or anything like that, I just think that DCI didn't want such an unpopular show to win. This probably was the most controversial show since Star 1993, and did that show win? No, even though it was arguably better than the show that came in 1st that year. Yes, that's right, I'm saying DCI pulled some strings. And of course, I have proof of that! Actually I don't. But it's my opinion nevertheless. I believe Cadets didn't win because they didn't execute their show as well as BD executed theirs. Clearly the better show won on finals night. I watched each show all three nights and as much as I wanted Cadets to win, it was clear to me that BD would be the corps to take it. Now can we stop with the excuses and give BD credit for their spectacular execution of their show already? Geez!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slow Adam Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 You seem so sure of the narration being the only factor?I was there the entire tour. attack the narration all you want, it's the way it was. the only time they booed was quarterfinals and that was involving hashmarks. which was the only new variable. we finished people stood up. so was it still the narration that made them stand up? Did they all of a sudden the one show narration became that much of an issue for them to boo. I didn't attack narration. I'm not sure how you read that from my post. I know quarters was the only time you were booed. Re-read my post. Pulling the corps off the field triggered people who would have normally kept their opinions and dissent to themselves. Did you hear how much anti-narration sentiment was mixed in with the boos? Take another corps from this year, or take the Cadets from 10 years ago, and pull them off the field. I doubt there would have been the same reaction. This entire statement is rediculous. Good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tone Quality Matters Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 (edited) To vote Yes is simply ridiculous. Blue Devils were better on finals night. Maybe not every show they went up against the Cadets, but they were better at finals. BD was clearly better than Cadets in percussion and anyone else for that matter, and that is where the real difference was. The narration argument is old and has mold growing on it. Those of you that continue to harp on narration need to find a new topic to bloviate over. YAWN...... Edited October 17, 2007 by Tone Quality Matters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbc03 Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 for those talking about how general effect wasnt the problem caption wise, did you people consider that maybe their general effect score would have been even higher without it? granted it would have required some different show design, thus making this thread even more hopelessly speculatory, but i hope thats at least being considered. A perfect score in GE wouldn't have made up for the difference between them and BD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slow Adam Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 To vote Yes is simply ridiculous.Blue Devils were better on finals night. Maybe not every show they went up against the Cadets, but they were better at finals. BD was clearly better than Cadets in percussion and anyone else for that matter, and that is where the real difference was. Percussion scores called the contest, though I would have had Phantom over Devils and Bluecoats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tptchic Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 I didn't attack narration. I'm not sure how you read that from my post.I know quarters was the only time you were booed. Re-read my post. Pulling the corps off the field triggered people who would have normally kept their opinions and dissent to themselves. Did you hear how much anti-narration sentiment was mixed in with the boos? Take another corps from this year, or take the Cadets from 10 years ago, and pull them off the field. I doubt there would have been the same reaction. Good one. This is what I was saying earlier. If it was another corps I doubt the crowd would have had the same reaction. Even on semifinals and finals you can hear people in the crowd making rude comments during the show. The hashmarks just added to the controversy even though Hop did the right thing. It is what it is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tptchic Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 I wonder... Some people seem to think that the GE score would have been higher without narration. Is it a possiblility that narration actually helped the GE score and without it they wouldn't have done as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtripleplayer77 Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 No........ the Blue Devils cost them the championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 The Cadets rocked! The Blue Devils rocked! A champion was determined. Who cares, good memories is what I'm taking from this year. It's over, let the controversy die, enjoy the memories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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