BRASSO Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 (edited) We know what "drum corps" or "drum and bugle corps" means when we hear it. But even if someone performs in the pit, we still say they are "marching" in a corps, just as we say guard members are still "guard" members even though they're not guarding anything. Drum and Bugle Corps has it's roots tied to military " stuff ".... ie,, the flag, patriotism, Americana, bugles, color guard,inspections, salutes, parade rest, retreat, color presentation, marching, uniformity and precision,..... all That jazz. Modern DCI units has it's roots tied to bands " stuff "...... ie, dancing, guitars, synthezizers, amplifyers, voice, narration, staging, props, singers, tubas, trumpets, individual expression, dancer solos,...... all THAT jazz. Evenually the name will catch up, and then this silly topic won't get people bent out of shape any more as to what these units have become, and we can move on to more substantive discussions on what we like or don't like regarding the musical and dance extravaganza spectacle before us. Edited March 1, 2010 by BRASSO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
76strad Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Never marched, but I think you are right when you say that the name doesnt match the organization now. but DCA does match I believe... However in my view the actual bugle is without valves, but its closse enough to count I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Windish Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Interesting question to ponder. At this point, the DCI activity needs a real "catch-all" kind of moniker. Something along the lines of . . . Sight & Sound Experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Blatch Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Many people in the 50s (much less 100 years ago) wouldn't agree that the G horns with 3 valves are actually bugles. 3-valved horns didn't come into dci until 1989 or 1990. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000Cadet Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 It really doesn't matter WHAT you change the name to. Most people outside of this activity will still refer to Drum Corps/Drum and Bugle Corps/Drum and Brass Corps as MARCHING BAND. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRASSO Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 (edited) It really doesn't matter WHAT you change the name to. Most people outside of this activity will still refer to Drum Corps/Drum and Bugle Corps/Drum and Brass Corps as MARCHING BAND. But If DCI simply changed the name to" Marching Band " or something close to this, that eliminates the problem altogether, no ? Edited March 1, 2010 by BRASSO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glad To Be Hear Posted March 1, 2010 Author Share Posted March 1, 2010 It's not overdue. It's been discussed in multiple threads in the past. Sorry. I don't get on here too often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Since the hornlines no longer play bugles, wouldn't it make more sense to call it Drum and Brass Corps now? I think this is a more accurate description of what the activity has become. (Unless you prefer to use "bugle" in a nonliteral sense.)And the horn lines are no longer made up of sopranos and contras. They're called trumpets and tubas. As much as it hurts to say it -- that's what they are. In this sense -- in my opinion -- the activity changed in 2000. Of course, this doesn't apply to the DCA groups that actually use bugles. Those are Drum and Bugle Corps. Anyone else see it the same way? (Puts on flame suit...) You DO know that DCA permits the same multi-key horns as DCI, I assume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRASSO Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 (edited) Agreed. If it ever happens, it won't happen due to anything any of us do. It will happen on its own. The cows are out of the barn now , so it's too late...... but maybe it might have been a good idea for DCI to have adopted 2 divisions. One division for " The Classic " approach and the other division for " The New Wave " approach. Let the " New Wave " division of competing Corps bring in marchers, staff, instrumentation, music, etc that was as progressive as they wanted. Let the " Classic " division remain a bit more traditional in terms of music, marching, instumentation,etc. I recognize the obstacles in such a 2 division style approach. Financially it might be undoable. Judging captions might be very problematic, as it would require overhaul to make it work within the 2 divisions in a satisfying manner. At the end of the day, it probably would be literally impossible to effectively implement. But conceptually anyway, I like the idea. Edited March 1, 2010 by BRASSO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighBrass09 Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, it must stay Drum and Bugle Corps. Or Drum corps for short. It's just not the same calling it anything different. Sorry! I march with the Empire Statesmen Drum and Bugle corps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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