danielray Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 (edited) How even is it to get sweet deals from horn and drum manufacturers times and again? This is HUGE not to mention other things. It's a catch 22, to get the endorsements and money you need to win and to win you need money. Having some CAP rules would not be the end of the world NOR punish those that have. Everyone wants new blood, but how can it ever happen if no one is allowed in? You do not need endorsement and money to win. Don't me such a ######. How many championships did Cadets win with a mishmashed McGyvered hornline? You ever see those things up close? Absolutely junk... but some how they got genius out of them. The problem ain't never the horn... but always the player. On top of that, back in my day... we called them Cadets of Bergen Belsen... as they did seem a bit calorically challenged. And yet, they still kicked our #####. You don't need money to win. You need to know how to win to win. Cadets, for example, used to have what I would call brute force wins. They just went for it like a mad man. These brute force wins allowed some support in later years (Bb change was 20 years too late, btw) which has transformed their approach to winning as certainly much smarter and more focused than brute force. Add to this that the management team and design team have matured over the years, creating a much more sustainable approach. Anyway, it is certainly possible for another scrappy org to come out and create a brute force win. The problem is actually in the way that design works these days. Now it has evolved into something a bit too formulaic. This prevents young designers from really breaking out. Combine this with the current sort of apprenticeship model for design training... and it isn't really possible for young designers to shake things up in the way they used to. This is unfortunate... there really needs to be emphasis placed on developing the next generation of creative talent. Edited February 4, 2013 by danielray 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeN Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 This is unfortunate... there really needs to be emphasis placed on developing the next generation of creative talent. We're kind of off the rails at this point, but I'd posit that the next generation of creative talent has long been out there, happily writing drill and music for literally thousands of marching band shows. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Yes, DCI is a consortia, not a collective. So, by definition, all corps within DCI are supposed to actually 'help each other prosper' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 This is not really a common thing. Corps either cap at 2 busses or go for 3 full. right so they can have under 100 members, or 150. your logic is amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickhaltsforlife Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Most corps I see have four busses? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickhaltsforlife Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I might have missed something in the convo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccerguy315 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Most corps I see have four busses? one if for staff though, yes? 3 for the kids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie1223 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 one if for staff though, yes? 3 for the kids That's how I remember it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickhaltsforlife Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 (edited) one if for staff though, yes? 3 for the kids Yes. But if corps were still 128 would they need that extra bus for staff? Since the busses supposedly seat more now split the staff up onto the busses... no one would get their own seat.. but it saves a whole lot of money with one less vehicle carting around all summer. Edited February 5, 2013 by kickhaltsforlife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielray Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 We're kind of off the rails at this point, but I'd posit that the next generation of creative talent has long been out there, happily writing drill and music for literally thousands of marching band shows. Mike In Asia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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