zigzigZAG Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 This kind of thing goes on in many, if not most bands, and other college organizations. I've taught hundreds of college students, and what they do in their houses and among their friends makes what was going on in the band pale in comparison. But the spotlight's on the band as it exists for the spotlight. I had many friends in TBDBITL in college, and it went on back then too, but worse. (Greed culture was also much worse back then too, with hazing, etc.). It's because at tOSU, the band is like about a half dozen greek groups combined into one. It's a culture unto itself. I knew guys who stayed five and six years so they'd get a chance to dot the "I". Scores of good musicians don't march each week, but have to challenge in. How many bands have a backup or understudy for most every position on the field constantly trying to beat you out on your playing, marching, flashes, or whatever? Cheers to the tOSU administration for staying in front of things, though. I think they just wanted to nip it in the bud before something an assault or alcohol poisoning happened. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappybara Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 This kind of thing goes on in many, if not most bands, and other college organizations. I've taught hundreds of college students, and what they do in their houses and among their friends makes what was going on in the band pale in comparison. But the spotlight's on the band as it exists for the spotlight. I had many friends in TBDBITL in college, and it went on back then too, but worse. (Greed culture was also much worse back then too, with hazing, etc.). It's because at tOSU, the band is like about a half dozen greek groups combined into one. It's a culture unto itself. I knew guys who stayed five and six years so they'd get a chance to dot the "I". Scores of good musicians don't march each week, but have to challenge in. How many bands have a backup or understudy for most every position on the field constantly trying to beat you out on your playing, marching, flashes, or whatever? Cheers to the tOSU administration for staying in front of things, though. I think they just wanted to nip it in the bud before something an assault or alcohol poisoning happened. Actually, according to the article, they got the alcohol poisoning part covered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyDad Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Wow. This is so identical to what happened at Wisconsin in 2008 it's scary. You might remember, but maybe not, that the Wisconsin band was suspended for a home game (ironically, against Ohio State) for pretty much the same antics. Michael Leckrone, the band director there since 1969, was not fired. It's his picture in my avatar. Many significant changes were made after that event to change (successfully) the sexualized culture that existed in the Wiscinsin band. The environment in the band is much healthier now, and the kids work just as hard and have just as much fun. Anyway, it is so sad that the OSU band leadership failed to learn the lesson from what happened at Wisconsin. For those of you who would excuse this behavior, I will guess you've never been on the receiving end of phone calls from your scared freshman daughter, telling you stories of things going on you don't want to believe. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShutUpAndPlayYerGuitar Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 It's a good thing those vets were dumb enough to leave a paper trail. Another reason I can't stand college marching band (I know, I know ... close-minded, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanLib Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Folks, that report is shocking and disturbing. It's practically pornographic. If that's what goes on in a lot of college marching bands, then I don't want any of my kids involved in it. I sure hope that is not the case. My next question is, does this stuff happen in DCI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumManTx Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Folks, that report is shocking and disturbing. It's practically pornographic. If that's what goes on in a lot of college marching bands, then I don't want any of my kids involved in it. I sure hope that is not the case. My next question is, does this stuff happen in DCI? Doesn't go on at the college I go to. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BozzlyB Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Folks, that report is shocking and disturbing. It's practically pornographic. If that's what goes on in a lot of college marching bands, then I don't want any of my kids involved in it. I sure hope that is not the case. My next question is, does this stuff happen in DCI It used to back when I marched, at some corps anyways, to varying degrees. I can't speak for anything post '93. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RContra Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Read the whole report. Glad DCI has tamed down quite a bit from what it used to be. One lawsuit could have sunken that ship in a heartbeat. Though the the credit of tOSU band, "Jewoobs" and "Ballsacagawea" are pretty fantastic nicknames. Sounds like stuff we called people back in the end of the 90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RContra Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Folks, that report is shocking and disturbing. It's practically pornographic. If that's what goes on in a lot of college marching bands, then I don't want any of my kids involved in it. I sure hope that is not the case. My next question is, does this stuff happen in DCI? This stuff used to happen. Frequently. I don't know of anywhere it happens anymore. That kind of stuff slowly exited the activity right when teaching methodologies started going from kick-your-###-for-no-reason to educational. 03-05ish was the big tipping point. Today's members seem to behave infinitely better than we did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumManTx Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Jesus Christ I just read through all of that stuff.......pretty graphic. Traditions will be traditions I guess......but if the director had any knowledge of what was going on and didn't do anything, then he definitely needed to go. End of discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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