BoyWonder1911 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 (edited) A little late for what!? I get out of work at 2am! I haven't missed a competition, have I? I haven't seen anything that anyone else doesn't have access to. And I have heard just about zilch coming from the Cavs' camp. Just a feeling is all. Edited June 17, 2015 by BoyWonder1911 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxingfred Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 It's Going To Be A Really Good Season! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.E. Brigand Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Ok, so when is the deadline for last predictions? There is no deadline; people will continue predicting all summer long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cube Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 So after the preview show I have seen six corps. Here are them, in MY order. 1. Bluecoats 2. Cadets 3. Carolina Crown 4. Madison Scouts 5. Cavaliers 6. Blue Stars 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.E. Brigand Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Alright, I'll bite. Mostly because I want to see how wrong I am come finals. That's the spirit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.E. Brigand Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 I'm glad you requested this breakdown. Since the number of predictions made in different months varied widely, I didn't break it down by quarter, but I did break it into distinct periods. I count 30 predictions in August, the results of which, already noted, are: 1.6 Blue Devils 2.9 Cadets 3.2 Bluecoats 4.0 Santa Clara Vanguard 4.4 Carolina Crown 5.4 Cavaliers 7.5 Phantom Regiment 7.8 Blue Knights 9.1 Blue Stars 9.8 Boston Crusaders 10.6 Madison Scouts 12.4 Crossmen The four-month period of September-December totals just 18 predictions, which average as follows: 1.6 Blue Devils 3.2 Bluecoats 3.3 Cadets 3.6 Santa Clara Vanguard 3.9 Carolina Crown 5.8 Cavaliers 8.2 Blue Knights 8.2 Phantom Regiment 9.2 Boston Crusaders 9.8 Blue Stars 10.2 Madison Scouts 12.2 Crossmen January-March had but 16 predictions, whose average is: 2.0 Cadets 2.4 Blue Devils 3.7 Bluecoats 4.1 Carolina Crown 4.8 Santa Clara Vanguard 5.2 Cavaliers 7.4 Phantom Regiment 7.8 Blue Knights 9.2 Boston Crusaders 9.8 Blue Stars 10.8 Madison Scouts 11.7 Crossmen Things picked up in April, with 25 predictions. They average: 2.0 Blue Devils 2.5 Cadets 3.1 Carolina Crown 4.3 Santa Clara Vanguard 4.5 Bluecoats 5.1 Cavaliers 7.5 Phantom Regiment 8.2 Blue Knights 9.0 Boston Crusaders 10.0 Blue Stars 10.0 Madison Scouts 12.3 Crossmen And here is the average of May's 15 predictions: 1.9 Blue Devils 1.9 Cadets 3.1 Carolina Crown 4.2 Bluecoats 5.1 Santa Clara Vanguard 5.4 Cavaliers 7.3 Phantom Regiment 8.1 Blue Knights 9.5 Boston Crusaders 10.3 Blue Stars 10.7 Madison Scouts 11.9 Crossmen There have only been 9 predictions in June, so I'll save that for next week. OK, here are the averages of the 25 predictions made in June before the first competition: 1.9 Blue Devils 2.5 Cadets 3.2 Bluecoats 3.6 Carolina Crown 5.2 Cavaliers 5.7 Santa Clara Vanguard 7.4 Phantom Regiment 8.4 Blue Knights 9.4 Boston Crusaders 9.9 Blue Stars 10.4 Madison Scouts 11.4 Crossmen My interest was in the "wisdom of the crowd" before the judges began to weigh in, so I'm not going to continue this exercise through the season. I will follow up in a moment with DCP's average prediction for all corps over the entire time since this thread was started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.E. Brigand Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 I thought it would be interesting to see how DCP members' predictions shifted over time. If a person made more than one prediction since this thread began, only the most recent as of the cut-off date was used. The number shown is the average placement predicted. Aug. 9-Aug. 31: 1.6 Blue Devils 2.9 Cadets 3.2 Bluecoats 4.0 Santa Clara Vanguard 4.4 Carolina Crown 5.4 Cavaliers 7.5 Phantom Regiment 7.8 Blue Knights 9.1 Blue Stars 9.8 Boston Crusaders 10.6 Madison Scouts 12.4 Crossmen After a flurry of August predictions, there were just a handful each month through December, so the next two sets are bi-monthly. Aug. 9-Oct. 31: 1.6 Blue Devils 3.0 Cadets 3.2 Bluecoats 3.9 Santa Clara Vanguard 4.3 Carolina Crown 5.5 Cavaliers 7.9 Blue Knights 7.9 Phantom Regiment 9.3 Blue Stars 9.6 Boston Crusaders 10.5 Madison Scouts 12.4 Crossmen Aug. 9-Dec. 31: 1.6 Blue Devils 3.2 Bluecoats 3.2 Cadets 3.9 Santa Clara Vanguard 4.2 Carolina Crown 5.6 Cavalier 7.8 Phantom Regiment 7.9 Blue Knights 9.3 Blue Stars 9.6 Boston Crusaders 10.4 Madison Scouts 12.3 Crossmen There were no predictions in January. Aug. 9-Feb. 28: 1.8 Blue Devils 3.0 Cadets 3.3 Bluecoats 4.1 Carolina Crown 4.1 Santa Clara Vanguard 5.4 Cavaliers 7.8 Blue Knights 7.8 Phantom Regiment 9.5 Blue Stars 9.5 Boston Crusaders 10.5 Madison Scouts 12.1 Crossmen There were only two predictions made in March. Aug. 9-Apr. 30: 1.8 Blue Devils 2.8 Cadets 3.8 Bluecoats 3.8 Carolina Crown 4.1 Santa Clara Vanguard 5.3 Cavaliers 7.8 Phantom Regiment 8.0 Blue Knights 9.4 Boston Crusaders 9.5 Blue Stars 10.3 Madison Scouts 12.2 Crossmen Aug. 9-May 31: 1.8 Blue Devils 2.7 Cadets 3.7 Carolina Crown 3.8 Bluecoats 4.2 Santa Clara Vanguard 5.4 Cavaliers 7.7 Phantom Regiment 8.0 Blue Knights 9.4 Boston Crusaders 9.7 Blue Stars 10.4 Madison Scouts 12.1 Crossmen That's right: so far, DCP members, on average, are predicting the same corps in the top twelve as last year. I'll update this again just before the season starts. Edited to correct tenths in each 11th and 12th position. And here at last is the average of all predictions made between Aug. 9, 2015 and (8:30 p.m. EDT on) June 17, 2015. As before, if someone made more than one prediction, I have used only their latest iteration. However, if someone picked a top 25 in March but only a top 12 in June, I have used their previous version for corps in 13th-25th. In parentheses are shown last year's final placement and this year's predicted placement based on these averages. With no further ado: 1.8 Blue Devils (1st > 1st) 2.5 Cadets (3rd > 2nd) 3.4 Carolina Crown (5th > 3rd) 3.7 Bluecoats (2nd > 4th) 4.5 Santa Clara Vanguard (4th > 5th) 5.2 Cavaliers (6th > 6th) 7.8 Phantom Regiment (7th > 7th) 8.1 Blue Knights (8th > 8th) 9.2 Boston Crusaders (10th > 9th) 9.7 Blue Stars (9th > 10th) 10.0 Madison Scouts (11th > 11th) 11.6 Crossmen (12th > 12th) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 13.0 Troopers (14th > 13th) 13.5 Colts (13th > 14th) 14.3 Spirit of Atlanta (17th > 15th) 16.0 Blue Devils B (15th > 16th) 16.1 Oregon Crusaders (19th > 17th) 16.7 Academy (16th > 18th) 18.2 Pacific Crest (20th > 19th) 18.8 Vanguard Cadets (18th > 20th) 20.4 Mandarins (21st > 21st) 21.1 Jersey Surf (22nd > 22nd) 21.9 Cascades (26th > 23rd) 24.2 Pioneer (30th > 24th) 24.3 Genesis (23rd > 25th) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 24.7 Spartans (24th > 26th) 24.8 7th Regiment (25th > 27th) 26.5 Music City (27th > 28th) 28.5 Legends (29th > 29th) 29.3 Gold (28th > 30th) 31.0 Jubal (n/a > 31st) 32.3 Raiders (31st > 32nd) 32.8 Colt Cadets (32nd > 33rd) 33.0 Coastal Surge (33rd > 34th) 35.5 Racine Scouts (35th > 35th) 35.5 Stentors (34th > 35th) 36.0 River City Regiment (n/a > 37th) 37.0 Blue Saints (36th > 38th) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HornTeacher Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Nice work, N.E. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.E. Brigand Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Well, it's certainly worth noting that the consensus opinion on DCP is that there will be very little change from last season to this one. Most individual predictions keep the status quo for most of the corps, just moving a handful up or down notably. And then everyone's different opinions approximately balance out. So when people here complain about the judges "slotting", they should perhaps turn the charge back on themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liahona Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 So when people here complain about the judges "slotting", they should perhaps turn the charge back on themselves. I think this activity has more transparency in judging than most other activities where a competition takes place...this transparency is thought to reduce favoritism which I believe it does...when I was younger and naive I felt different...I believed there was always a conspiracy....and that alternative is far worse IMO... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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