JimF-LowBari Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 44 minutes ago, Continental said: Well at least you didn't close with Muskrat Love. Or as a music major friend called it Rat Love... serious question... do OC corps get paid when they appear in WC shows? I’ve read no and if true, another reason not to drop to OC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PioneerWebmaster Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 56 minutes ago, JimF-LowBari said: Or as a music major friend called it Rat Love... serious question... do OC corps get paid when they appear in WC shows? I’ve read no and if true, another reason not to drop to OC. Open Class corps do get paid for appearances at World Class shows, but it's significantly less than what the WC corps receive. The standard rate for a WC corps is $2,600 per event. Open Class finalists get $1,800 per event, while non-finalists get $700 per event. One exception - new or re-emerging corps in Open Class receive $0 per event in their first year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, PioneerWebmaster said: One exception - new or re-emerging corps in Open Class receive $0 per event in their first year. Wow! That doesn’t help a corps expenses while on the road. Edited July 1, 2020 by Ghost 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Land_Surfer Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 12 minutes ago, Ghost said: Wow! That doesn’t help a corps expenses while on the road. And $2600 does? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 the biggest cost in drum corps has very little to what you see used in performance: food, fuel, housing and insurance. not props, equipment, or uniforms. and the state of the world come 2021, ESPECIALLY HOUSING, will determine what if anything happens. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 13 hours ago, Tim K said: If we do not see a return of the former touring model, or at least a modified version, it will require a whole rethinking of drum corps. I don’t see how we can go back to regional tours. There are simply not enough corps and in the Northeast and Upper Midwest, the audiences are aging and attendance at shows has been decreasing. The hotspots are the Southern states and few corps hail from these states, though interestingly membership does. If we don’t have as many travel and competitive opportunities, will we have kids who want to march? I do realize that during this extended off season, corps are just trying to survive and who will and will not be able to weather the storm is questionable. It may be a difficult proposition for those involved in corps leadership to develop a new touring model, but it could also be the time to bring new folks to the table who love and understand drum corps who also have skills and vision. There are fans and alums of drum corps in transportation, education, the medical fields, youth activities, finance, law, and I’m sure any other area that needs to be involved in the discussions. There are folks who know what was done fifty years ago and why that can give a historical perspective and those who know young people today who can move things forward. All sorts of people are needed. Though the situation is serious, things are not all dire, and drum corps has faced challenges. In the 80’s when corps disappeared, including some of the best and most iconic, many predicted there would be no activity in the 90’s. This may seem like old news, but look back at DCP threads from 2010 or so, a time I did not do any commenting on but read faithfully, and a frequent topic was poor attendance at shows and what it means for the the future. In the past few years attendance has been steadily increasing. IMO in the northeast audience dwindled because of the prices charged by a certain promoter of many shows 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 12 hours ago, craiga said: Perhaps some World Class corps who find them selves financially on the edge might opt to do the first season back in Open Class…? This would automatically solve the 66 day tour expense and decrease the amount of tour housing needed right off the bat. We wouldn't need to reinvent the wheel. WC corps opt for a season (or 2) to compete in Open and return to World when ready. The added benefit would be to also prop up attendance at the smaller local shows, which is a win-win. There is precedent for this....Magic, Spirit, Blue Stars...maybe others? Let the dozen or so financially secure groups continue with the touring as it has been. Open Class is there for anyone who might think their survival depends on it. Just an idea. open class removes 90% of their income from shows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 11 hours ago, JimF-LowBari said: What is DCI pay for Open Class? thank you for coming 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PioneerWebmaster Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 21 minutes ago, Land_Surfer said: And $2600 does? $2,600 multiplied by a full slate of 25-30 World Class shows helps put a dent in the operating budget, but definitely isn't intended to be the only source of revenue for a corps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PioneerWebmaster Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 39 minutes ago, Ghost said: Wow! That doesn’t help a corps expenses while on the road. New or re-emerging corps are generally limited to a relatively short regional tour in their first year, so the lack of payment for those few events isn't a huge factor. They would have already had to demonstrate to DCI during their evaluation process that they had sufficient operating funds on hand in order to be approved for the tour that they're going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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